I heard that! I started to mention those dogs myself, Weimaraners . . . man are they hostile. I think that's one of the biggest reasons people don't hunt with them and down here Chessies aren't used as much either because they might just decide to bite your hunting partner. Maybe that's why these two breeds didn't take off like some of the others.
Sparky, the former Director of Decoys for Nara and also a National Ranked Level II Decoy Trained and titled a Chessie named Piper in Ringsport.
I in fact was the Decoy who worked the dog in the first trial the animal was titled in and it was at the Championships in Brevet. The dog would have won the Brevet Championship as the score was the highest overall but the dog was not a regular allowed breed and had to settle for blue dog status.
Make no mistake though she won the brevet Championship hands down and was not awarded the coveted Championship Trophy due to a bylaw in Nara and off breeds.
Jerry
PS, I have trained a few hard nosed Chessies in Obed.
The weimaraner is by many hunters described as a sharp dog, they sure are protective of their owners and makes good guarddogs. The breedstandard also calls for a tough and courageous huntingdog, sharp against predators and sharp and protective against man, but not overly aggressive. Some weimaraners could be suited for protectionwork, because they have a core of steel. The weimaraner is both a hard and tough dog but in the same time sensitive, it want to please his owner, therefore a bit sensetive for hard handler corrections. I heard weimaraners sometimes are used as policedogs because of their courage and sharp temperament, not often though, a though huntingdog is the primarly work for this breed. One weimaraner I know of in Sweden is a great huntingdog but has also passed the selectiontest for policework we use here, with great result. Here is a pic of protectionwork with a weimaraner. http://www.alltomhundar.com/aoh/bildarkiv/bilder/wei8.jpg
How about the Rhodesian Ridgeback? Anyone have any experience with these dogs. They're large dogs and tend to be a little on the sharp side as well I believe?
Any dog that was bred to hunt the African Lion must have balls of steel! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> The question is how much of that is left in today's Ridgeback. I really don't know.
Originally posted by VanCamp: You wanna talk about ballz of steel, I'm going to go look at two Hungarian imported Jagd Terriers this weekend. This otta be good. I've wanted to play with one of these dogs in detector work, I have seen one and she would have been awesome. I tried to adopt another but the owner decided to keep him.
Rhodesian Ridgebacks, I'm glad that breed was brought up. I figured they were used more often for Misc. Protection breeds when I started getting into this. I never hear or see them around, is there a reason?
Anyone with any info, I'm sure everyone would like to hear it, at least I would . . . I always like new info.
My first job I got as a 12 year old, doing kennel work for a lady that bred Rhodesian Ridgebacks. She is a very well known breeder. She knows quite a few people in the Ridgeback world and alot of them know her. I finally got around to asking her if she knew of anyone that had titled a Ridgeback in Schutzund or Personal protection. She emailed me back saying that a guy actually took one of her dogs through schutzund up to "crowd patrol" (not sure what that means). He said his dog beat all the german shepherds in his trials. She said the dog's name was Riveroad's McGruffer. She couldn't remember the guy's name. WHen I did a search for Riveroad's McGruffer all i could find was a pedigree and just a CD title with his name,unfortunately I'm not sure on details of this dog. This is all I know so far. I"ll keep my ears open though.
Originally posted by VanCamp: Great hunting dogs, great watch dogs, crappy protection dogs.
Why waste the time putting the work into a dog that most likely will not have the juice to do the job as well as another breed. If you need a protection dog get one from a proven line and proven breed. It will eliminate head aches. I disagree with you Vancamp! My Dad's Chessie clould easily do protection. He actually bit the UPS guy because he opened up the door to put a package inside. This, to me, is a characteristic I want in a protection dog. This same dog is fine with strangers if he knows they are no threat. He is also good with kids. This same dog also has never been trained in protection. He has crazy prey drive and great nerves. He is a little hard headed at times and takes one HELL of a correction!! I really believe that these dogs could do good protection with the right training. I personally really like the breed. Good family dogs.
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