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#53131 - 02/27/2002 07:37 AM |
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Originally posted by Todd E. Gaster:
To each their own. What some call flaws I call a bonus. I have 3 extreme dogs. All three have rank issues. All three are extremely hard. They are not for everyone. However, I love that in a dog. Amen....that's exactly why I looked into getting a Czech line dog. Good to know I'm not the only one that likes those really hard, gotta be the boss, "extreme" dogs.
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Re: Czech GSD's
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#53132 - 02/27/2002 08:50 AM |
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Glad to see there are more of us out there. I also have a z PS male I imported at eight weeks. Took him to the Flinks seminar in Albuqurque last year. He scored (1) 2, and the rest all 1's on flinks puppy test. However, he is not a dog for a novice, or even an intermediate. He is all dog.
The reason I started this thread though, is I get alot of emails telling me what the Czech lines are. Most of the time I have to laugh. All defense, no prey. Yadda Yadda Yadda
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#53133 - 02/27/2002 10:08 AM |
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I have created a topic for Czech German Shepherds and moved this thread under that topic. I think there is enough Czech influence in this country to warrant this. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#53134 - 02/27/2002 11:56 AM |
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Hey Ed. What do you think of Czech lines. While I have see East German dogs in your bloodline, I do not recall seeing and Czech dogs other then one bitch? What is your opionion on them.
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My friend (Kevin sheldahl) has the best police service dog that I have ever seen (CJ)which is a Czech dog. He is produceing well and if he were closer I would be breeding him more. The dog is outstanding. More people should breed to this dog. He has natural aggression,an excellent level of sharpness and super prey drive.
I have not seen many other Czech dogs that I would breed to. Not to say they are not out there, I just have not seen them.
I guess only time will tell. I have a feeling that Czech dogs will have a lot more to offer than the DDR dogs. I think DDR dogs have very little to offer the breed. Their reputation has grown beyond where it should be. The vast majority of these dogs are soft dogs.
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I agree to some extent. CJ is an awesome dog, and I did a breeding to him. Had 8 in the litter. 5 of the 8 could not go to inexpereinced people. The other 3 made nice pets.
Now Ed(LOL) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> , I have a Czech dog, that you, Kevin, and Bernhard all liked. In Albuquerque, we can see him again.LOL
Also, I believe the DDR lines have gotten out of hand. However, if you're not careful you will find that with the Czech lines as well. (I suppose that goes for all lines).
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So how is Cj producing? I've seen him on video as well - and he does lookimpressive. tremendous drive, that's for sure.
Also todd, you mention that people claim that Czech dogs are all defense and little prey - that is the impression I had as well from what I've been told. I haven't got any first hand expereince with czech line GSD's (except for one) so I'd like to have your take on their general characteristics, qualities and shortcomings.
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I have only had one litter with him. the best I can say is I would do it again. Very nice, uniform litter. I only got one bitch out of it though. 7 Males. 5 pups went to working homes and all are being worked.(Amazing isnt it) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
The Czech lines that I have, I have the z PS. I also, have Dudakova dvora, and some of the other lines. From my experience all have prey. Some extreme. Defense is very high. They bond to one person. Stand offish to others. If you watch them as pups, you can almost call them skittish. Till the mature, then look out. The defense is quick to show up. Czech lines tend to mature faster. High rank issues. I would not recommend these lines to a novice.
I can definetly see why some people say they are not good competition. I believe that is where most of the rumors come from. People looking for top quality competition don't necessarily want a Czech dog. You have to be able to control them.
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So would you say that they have enough prey to train Ob primarily with a toy a la Flinks style?
What control problems would you say people have with them specifically?
Is it a question of hardness? and maybe not using the right methods? Are they handler aggressive?
Too rank and high maintenance for the average dog sport enthusiast?
Thanks in advance,
Nick
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