Lee Baragona wrote 09/04/2002 03:14 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58794 - 09/04/2002 03:14 PM
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Lynn Cheffins wrote 09/04/2002 03:43 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58795 - 09/04/2002 03:43 PM
Lynn Cheffins Webboard User Reg: 04-17-2002 Posts: 617 Loc: Offline	I would add if you feel it is necessary to roughhouse with your dog to make sure they know it is at your bidding and only when you ask for it! When they do the surprise attack even in good-natured exuberance they tend to be inventive in their games and think up new ones like - -grabbing mummies long braid at 40 mph (snaps your head bad something wicked!) -jump up and kiss mummies nose at 40 mph (speed being more important than accurate aim) -"steal the toque" at 40mph(so what if a little hair comes with it) -jump up on mummy(speed unimportant but aim so both mummy and the two five gallan water buckets she is carrying go flying) You can see why I try to curb rather than encourage these little games. I have also taught my dogs some things I shouldn't have such as when I taught my little 36 lb female to jump up on my shoulder- well that was fine until her somewhat larger 55lb brother decided to copy her but did it much faster and without my request - I'm still doing physio for that one.
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Chuck Fantasia wrote 09/04/2002 03:46 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58796 - 09/04/2002 03:46 PM
Chuck Fantasia Moderator Reg: 08-08-2001 Posts: 1174 Loc: NJ Offline	I agree. Controlled rough housing with you deciding when enough is enough is fine IMO. I also do the inhibited bite thing. The key is that I'm in TOTAL control of the situation and when I say enough, that's enough. Just use common sense. You also have to take into consideration the temperament of your dog. If you have a dog that is fearful or lacks confidence you don't wan't to screw with the dog's head.
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The Lads wrote 09/04/2002 03:50 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58797 - 09/04/2002 03:50 PM
The Lads Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2002 Posts: 18 Loc: Offline	i have a Dobe and Mastiff, the dobe i'm not concerned with as we cant catch him anyway. the mastiff is more like a fullback just charges straight ahead. and he does his share of tackling. not concerned with biting as his bite inhibition is great. oh yes, the nails are very short but you can still feel them on occassion. sounds like his playing days are not over after hearing from the, what appears to be, more educated dog owners...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Chuck Fantasia wrote 09/04/2002 03:55 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58798 - 09/04/2002 03:55 PM
Chuck Fantasia Moderator Reg: 08-08-2001 Posts: 1174 Loc: NJ Offline	I have to say that while I disagree with LSwanston on rough housing in general, I agree with her that teaching a dog to tackle someone is not a good idea. This opens up a possible can of worms IMO.
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Lonny B. wrote 09/04/2002 04:32 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58799 - 09/04/2002 04:32 PM
Lonny B. Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2001 Posts: 704 Loc: Offline	I as well include ruff housing with my dog, we play like that every morning and afternoon, we chase and jump on each other and play bite arms legs and whatever else we can get into... I bite him, he bites me... it's great fun and I see no harm in doign that, in fact I think it teaches him fighting tactics and escape, evade and attack moves with a human... he is aware that biting the master hard is not allowed... but with a decoy the game is difrent and he is smart enough to know what's what. Bottom line is playing is playing... the dog sees it all as one thing.. playing ball or wrastling me. It's still playing and lots of fun. Leute mögen Hunde, aber Leute LIEBEN ausgebildete Hunde!
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Don B. Ackerson wrote 09/04/2002 04:35 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58800 - 09/04/2002 04:35 PM
Don B. Ackerson Webboard User Reg: 07-12-2002 Posts: 1080 Loc: Offline	Tiggy2 that's some funny stuff, we may need get you a comedy show. Funny!! Lad I see one of your dogs already knows how to tackle. Mastiff breeds are good at that. But the board is right teaching a dog to tackle is not a good thing unless its holding poachers (or playing foot ball..not part of this statement) which was the purpose of Mastiff . Rough housing that injurys a dog is what I was speaking against. Almost everybody plays with their dog or dogs. And thats a bonding trusting experince, but I'd feel real bad if one started limping. By the way what does the Dobie do when you and the Mastiff are wrestling on the ground, he does come by and bite your butt or something? Boys will be boys. Dog owners will be ... Don't hurt them, I didn't think you could hurt a Mastiff. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> For you literal people I know any dog can get hurt. I'm just giving Lad some sh*&.
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The Lads wrote 09/04/2002 05:11 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58801 - 09/04/2002 05:11 PM
The Lads Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2002 Posts: 18 Loc: Offline	yes, he knows what playing is. not talking here about bringing him around the town commanding him to tackle people. :rolleyes: didnt think i gave that inclination, but i guess if you read very deep into everything who knows what you can come up with. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> been having these games all summer and just recently came to think about possible injury as he may have slightly hyperextended his front leg a bit he was fine next day. im a large person i dont want to get carried away. the dobe is a bit larger right now and he tends to get carried away a bit so i need to be more selective with his aggressive play. I'm also pretty far into his protection training; so he's sort of in a different situation right now.
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Lisa Swanston wrote 09/04/2002 07:56 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58802 - 09/04/2002 07:56 PM
Lisa Swanston Webboard User Reg: 08-03-2001 Posts: 1588 Loc: Offline	Wismz, now I know why I gave you one star. I have *never* played the "gender card" on this board, and had never intended to. Thanks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I was an only girl, raised with brothers. Need I say more? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> About rough housing, I guess I've heard way too many people complaining about how their 10 month old puppy keeps biting their legs and attacking the kids, and they don't understand why the puppy keeps doing this, when they always tell him "No"; only to find out that "dad's" idea of play is "rough housing". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> But hey, I just like to shoot my mouth off about stuff I know nothing about. :rolleyes: Lisa & Lucy, CGC, Wilderness Airscent Western Oregon Search Dogs
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Bob Scott wrote 09/04/2002 11:05 PM Re: Rough Housing [Re: The Lads ] #58803 - 09/04/2002 11:05 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Lads I rough house with my dogs also, but on my terms and rules. They won't start it until I play bow to them, and even then, NO teeth on me. Your comment about you can continue to roughhouse because you heard from some of the more educated ones on the board is way off base. Try not to make a decision based on one post you happen to dissagree with. I can only hope to have the knowledge of some of the people I sometimes dissagree with. Welcome to the board. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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