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#65143 - 02/28/2004 08:30 AM |
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Howard take a mop and saturate it in classic coke and mop a 20 by 20 slick floor area, wait for it to dry and then walk around on the floor.Another thing i would do would be to stress the dog while he was on the floor with coke is to maybe muzzle him and put him on his side and pin him and screw around with his head until he shows defense and at the first sign of showing his teeth or growl i would jump up and hoot and squeal like richard simmons. Make him worry about what you are going to do to him .Not the slick floor. When this bologna is that deep in a dogs head you have to work in defence not prey. Make him defend his pride on this slick floor ,work his head over big time . I have used this many times ,it will not work stimulating in prey. only defense.
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#65144 - 02/28/2004 03:34 PM |
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Howard - you did the right thing is dumping this dog. Its a nerve issue - pure and simple. Right now its slippery floors - nextg week, next month or next year it will be something else. The dog should not be a service dog.
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#65145 - 02/28/2004 08:47 PM |
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I think the Highway Patrol is interested in mainly using the dog for drug sniffs. Hopefully he wont develope a problem with that now that he is almost certified.
Peter, Yhe point is moot at this time but..We did try an exercise similar to what you describe but w/o the coke. All the dog did was blow an anal gland and cow down to the threat. Very disheartening.
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#65146 - 03/03/2004 01:00 PM |
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Hey Will
She's ok with her shadow. I was taking shiny pans out of the dishwasher and she started getting nervous. Don't laugh but I have a disco ball on the celing that she will stare at for a long time. I was going to take it down but she is getting better with it. Outside she is great. It all seems to be inside. I was wondering about the eyes only because she barks (seriously) at the window curtains if they move in the wind but that's another story.
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#65147 - 03/03/2004 02:08 PM |
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Being the trainer for a Highway Patrol, I can't imagine why they would want a dog that is already displaying problems like that. If the problem is reflected light, how is the dog going to react to strobes. How would he react to wet, shiny pavement. I guess we aren't like other Highway Patrols then, we are frequently called to conduct building searches. I wouldn't have the dog in my program.
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#65148 - 03/04/2004 07:42 PM |
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David, I guess there are others that feel the same way. Found out today that the deal fell through because the dog is going to a green handler who has to go through a full K9 school. They decided to get a green dog for him. We are now stuck with him. The dog has been given a 6 month moratorium in hopes the lead instructor can fix the problem. I suggested to the handler that he refuse to work him for safety reasons but he is in denial. What a cluster! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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#65149 - 03/05/2004 04:29 PM |
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I don't know about reflected light...
But I do know about slick floors. I have had rescued Greyhounds for about 10 years. Their issues with house training, slick floors being a big one, is simply that they have never experienced them before. (Post-racing rescues typically come to you at 3 - 4 years old).
I realize that Greyhounds have different temperaments than other breeds, and a post-racer home pet is different than a working dog. But when they haven't seen "it" before, they haven't seen it. As with all *new* things, patience, familiarity and work solved the problem.
We have since rescued other breeds that knew equally little as the Greyhounds about stuff in a house. Slick floors were really a common thing. All have overcome that *fear* with time and patience and work.
Did the 2YO GSD come from a kennel environment where slick floors weren't part of the deal?
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#65150 - 03/05/2004 07:23 PM |
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Dale,
I'm a little worried that you still have a disco ceiling ball.......you don't play the "Bee Gee's" constantly during training, do you? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Seriously,
This was a good thread. You got some good advice ( and one piece of incredibly stupid advice ) and most folks put some thought into their reply - very nice!
BTW, in ASR we have a graded exercise for room search with a slippery floor, with decoy apprehesion in the same building on said floor. Always a cool exercise to train for.
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#65151 - 03/05/2004 08:19 PM |
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ok. This is Dale's wife, Ellen. First of all let me make one thing VERY CLEAR. IT'S NOT A DISCO BALL! It is a ball,true. It also has very artfully placed mirrors on it, true. But there's no spinning machine, no blue, red and green lights shining on it, and NO Bee Gee's. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
That said... it is very sparkly & pretty when the sun shines on it, and our female will just sit under it, and stare at it like at any moment it will swoop down and take her to the mother ship. spooky. 
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#65152 - 03/05/2004 09:26 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification!
I can get the images of a helper dressed in a polyester leisure suit out of my mind now! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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