Travis: does kraftwerkk9 have a bastin dog that is used for breeding or something?

Not that I'm aware of.

Bear in mind this is not very many... but I have closely seen and watched grow a litter of Bastin Grand-kids... all were horrible, very little in the way of drive - way too much defense at a very early age - not very confident pups at all, despite the efforts of the owner who exposed them to everything and anything - plus most of the males had no balls.

Saw two Bastin pups, both sucked. Dam had lines to Fero and Mink, she was pretty decent.

Sammy that summed up perfectly what I have witnessed myself. Just goes to show you that sometimes great dogs don't "make" other great dogs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

The breeder of my male bought a Bastin puppy as an eventual stud dog, but sold it within six months, as he didn't like what he was seeing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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Originally posted by John Hohman:



Bernhard Flinks told me to get rid of him and buy another dog for Schutzhund when he first saw him as a puppy. Several months later, Bernhard worked him again and was shocked! He kept commenting through the seminar that my dog proved him wrong.

My only point in telling you this is that sometimes I think people give up too easily on their dogs. I admit I had some doubts about my dog after the first Flinks seminar, however I'm glad that I stuck it out with him! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Good point John!!!! while we love Bernhard and hold him in high regard I would never get rid of a dog because he saw him over a seminar weekend and told me he wasn't good enough... it's merely one weekend in a growing dog's life and one man's opinion.

good job working your pup and getting great results. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Thanks Cindy, I appreciate that very much! If Ed only knew what he was really accomplishing with his videos! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> My dog is living proof!

is it very common for a dog to completely "lose" drive if it has good prey drive at 8 weeks? i know that the drive is built up during the drive building stage that may take some time or it may not take very long, but has anyone seen or owned a young pup whose drive seriously diminished as it matured eventhough it was being worked/built up properly? i ask, because i have a bastin grandson who exhibits prey drive, i am not an expert so i wouldnt know exactly how to rate the prey drive of a very young pup, however i know that in the article section of this site Ed Frawley answered someones question about why their young puppy didnt have prey drive, but it would bite their hands and pants legs all of the time and fight/pull. Ed said that their dog had a "ton" of prey drive. So, i guess my question is what would behavoirs would be considered very low-low-medium-high-very high amount of prey drive in a very young puppy? i will say that my pup is not afraid of loud noises (banging pots, soda can with rocks in it) until it is dropped very close to him, and if he gets startled he recovers quickly (wagging tail and investigates). when i am playing with the rag with him he grips calmly and is starting to look at me not the rag during the bite, i can hit the ground beside him and try to distract him but he holds fine. he will go to strangers when coaxed, and he was potty trained using a crate very quickly, he has only eliminated in the house once the first day. i am happy with what i have seen so far, but i was wondering what everyone else thought because i have only seen high prey drive in older dogs (training drive focus and grip video etc) does my young pup exhibit acceptable amount of prey drive for his age? i hope he is not like the other progeny that will and john have seen...we will see, all i can do is my best to bring him to his genetic potential.

travis you ask a lot of good questions. but a lot
of your questions are hard to ansewer without seeing what the dog is doing in my opion you can kill drives through bad training and sharpen skills with good training your dog may have high prey-drive but he has a long road to go and he is still so young

keep doing what you are doing if it works

i completely understand your reply, i know he has a long road to go, i guess my main question what what would you look for in a young pup as far as prey drive is concerned, i know there are a lot of other things to look for, i am most interested in what exhibitions of prey drive you would expect to see in an 8 week old pup that you were personally looking to purchase.thanks for such an awesome place fot information, haha i find myself reading-researching daily.