-could also be 'cause some of the "news" stories that come out of the former soviet union have the ring of National Enquirer or Weekly World News about them. Going by the pictures the dogs look to be some kind of Laika - some of these types of dogs are primarily used as hunting dogs so they might have good scenting ability. The piebald colouration of the one dog is also common in some working/racing lines of Siberians notably Anadyr. Whatever - they are all nordic/spitz type dogs. nice looking dogs!

Just want to run this by everyone. The Shiba Inu has been called by many one of the closest domestic dogs to the wolf. It's hardly the domesticated animal that the Golden, etc., is and still maintains the independence that is typical of animals in the wild. One of the Shiba's biggest assets is its nose. Often overlooked by SAR because of its size, the Japanese have successfully used it for years for tracking and scent detection. That said, since Sen. Biden's Rave bill proposal, many Shibas are now being trained for drug detection because of their nose and the fact that they wouldn't spook club guests. Has anyone heard of these things? I ask because the argument made against these "semi-wild" dogs is that while they scent-discriminate well, it's all prey drive and they're easily distracted from their duty if they cross the path of another animal such as a rabbit, etc.

IMHO, the Shiba's independant nature, not uncommon in orential breeds, would keep it from wanting to work on demand. You could also argue this point with the Basenji. Within the past 20 yrs, a group of Basenji owners went to Africa to bring in new blood to avoid health problems that were common to the breed. These dogs were as close to a natural dog as you can get, but I still think the natural independance of the breed would keep it from being a good "worker".

That is what I've heard from other people as well; however, I do know of some success stories. I guess there will be success stories for every breed, though, and you have to look at it on a dog-by-dog basis. Some people have problems with Shiba's staying focused, but those who have worked through it swear that they're a great detection dog.

Hey Folks,
Just a thought, A hybred is wolf and K9 right? In most cases DAH :rolleyes: Now Jackels next we will be cross breeding pigs(Keen scence of smell)with our K9's leave it to science. :rolleyes:
Now lets see a wolf is a pack animal and from what I have seen and read that lupis traits usually overbears the canine traits where you get a flight trait over a fight trait, this not being good for a service dog or sport.I would think to assume that the Jackel runs along the same principle? As far as tracking or narcotics training I think someone is barking up the wrong tree :rolleyes: I personly would not like the Lupis or Jackel traits in my working partner.
This is just my opion and thoughts!
I see hundreds of Hybreds (Wolfs) for sale as superior protection dogs who's trying to blow smoke up our butt here? Money making DIRTBAGS <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> There are many Hybred rescues all over the US a huge one in CA.and many more abandoned on the street or running around the woods trying to survive it's an ugly situation.Hell here where I live we have many!! coydogs running around it has gotten so bad there hunted year round because they are a nuscience to the farmers. There so bad there comming up to peoples homes here in the country.
Be safe all
Lewis and Argo/Riley

hey guys my first post so be nice please! my english is not so good...
I knew this guy over in israel, up north, who was a handler in the military
(serch & rescue unit if it matter) and when he got out he started working with wolfs! on tracking and snifing!
as far as i know it was going preety well but unfurtionly his not doing it any more...
he got killed last year in a terror attack.
any way i dont see why working with this mixture of dogs and jackl wouldent work it sounds interesting!
edo

hey guys my first post so be nice please! my english is not so good...
I knew this guy over in israel, up north, who was a handler in the military
(serch & rescue unit if it matter) and when he got out he started working with wolfs! on tracking and snifing!
as far as i know it was going preety well but unfurtionly his not doing it any more...
he got killed last year in a terror attack.
any way i dont see why working with this mixture of dogs and jackl wouldent work it sounds interesting!
edo