David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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Steve,
I'm a bit old fashioned, I only do one drug at a time. I know of some trainers that have success mixing all four together and then seperating the odors as they progress. I just prefer to one at a time.
DFrost
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
You Americans must do things differently - In England we have out dogs sniff the drugs, noy ourself's - however your way sounds more fun <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003
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David, I was taught to train a dog to find drugs in the same manner as you described and feel no great need to change. I do however find Matthew's process intriguing. Matt, how much time do you predict you can cut the training down?, and how do the dogs respond as opposed to David"s technique? I will be teaching a drug school in a couple months, and although it is going to be 160 hours no matter how you look at it, I would like to have more time to spend on any problem areas and more advanced searches during the school. Your process may give me what I need.
Steve, To get a passive indication, just utilize the training you have done already. Have the dog sit prior to any reward, be it food or toy. Its easier than the extra work of building a dogs' aggressive alert and it doesnt matter if the dog knows the reward comes from you.
David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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Howard K.
I'm not sure it's what Matthew was speaking about, but I worked with a trainer that started all the dogs out on all four odors. He put them in PVC pipe and introduced all four as one. During the training however, he did seperate them out and train with them individually as well. I didn't really see any great time savings though. As you say, my course is going to last a specific number of hours regardless of how it's done.
DFrost
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003
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David,
I guess if you really think about it, he is just working in reverse. On the face, it appears that some time would be saved by introducing all odors at once. But in the end, all must be worked separately to proof the dogs. Tomato..Tomotto..
Matthew Grubb Webboard User Reg: 09-27-2002
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Howard…..It’ hard to give a time difference between introducing each odor separately vs. introducing them all at the same time because as David pointed out you have to do X hours of Narcotics training anyway. By introducing all of the odors together then separating them individually we noticed a smooth transition to each drug instead of having to go back to square one and introduce a new odor…..the dog was able to single out the different drugs with little issue due to the “layering”. It seamed that we spent less time dealing with the recognition of the odors and more time working on the technical side of the drug detection. I don’t know of any study pertaining to which method produces more accurate drug dogs….. I’ve seed dogs trained both ways and you can’t tell one from another when looking at the finished product.
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003
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Matthew,
I see your point. It is true, transitioning from one drug to another with a different chemical makeup can be a slow herky-jerky process. At least your way the dog has already been exposed to the odor and there are no surprises. Just for kicks I think I'll try it your way in the upcoming school. Might make things a little less monotonous.
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