Let's not confuse things.
Yes, the H/G's can play at competing against the BC in herding as practiced in the US, but the BC can't even try to do the herding job the H/G's were originally bred for, the poor BC's would be lost without constant direction.
Which brings up another point.
Meredith,
Yes, there are outlanders in any breed (or nonbreed) of dog....but if one is looking for certain proclivities in an animal where would you look?
Where's the best chance to find what you'd like to see and train to?
Personally, I have never gone looking for a dog. They just kind of find me. BUT if I were to want a good all around high drive working dog, I would get a Malinois from Michael Ellis. No question on that for me. I have seen enough Loups du Soleil dogs that I know that I would not be disappointed.
If you are stuck on a Mal or BC you could get a cross Mal/BC The "Malincollie"
And what is that suppose to mean Spenser?
You wanted information, that is what I'm trying to convey.
Does that mean you don't want to do your homework?
For reference:
The BC and the H/G herd in an entirely different manner.
Note: while their FUNCTIONS over lap, the absolute jobs each are bred for is completely different.
I don't post much here anymore but I dropped in and saw this thread. To be honest, I didn't read all of the posts.. just a few of them and your initial post. This statement caught my attention (I added the bold effect):
Quote: Spencer Martin
... I want to, literally, do every sport except maybe hunting and herding. ...
IMO, after reading this statement you made, I would say go with the Mal. The Mal can do all of the other sports you are interested in doing, namely bitework, and won't be miserable if you conciously choose not to pursue herding with it. That's not to say that a BC won't be happy if you engage in other activities to fulfill it, but IMHO, if you know you don't want to do the one thing the dog has been most selectively bred for, for the longest period of time then why get one when there is another breed you're interested in that will suit your indicated purposes?
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