Connie Sutherland wrote 02/10/2006 02:02 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Beth Sparks ] #97618 - 02/10/2006 02:02 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Our summers last from May-Aug. Last summer we had 75 days that were 100+ with 70-80% humidity. My girl ran all the time, but she drank alot of water!She would also dunk her whole head and legs in it. I guess this kept her cool because she never got overheated. Although the summers here are more moderate, one of my dogs is flat-faced (so very susceptible to overheating). At his training club, there is always a full kiddie pool set up. Many of the dogs deliberately walk through it after running around, and a couple who stand at the edge doubtfully get picked up and popped in. I thought this was so clever that I got one myself for both the bracheocephalic dog *and* the GSD, and I think it's very useful for the month or so when we get hot days. As Beth says, it's a chance to get the whole head wet and cool, even for a big dog. It does not take long to dump and refill it every few days when it gets gross.
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Beth Sparks wrote 02/10/2006 02:08 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #97619 - 02/10/2006 02:08 PM
Beth Sparks Webboard User Reg: 01-25-2006 Posts: 186 Loc: Offline	We had a kiddie pool for about 1 hour! Aden bit holes all over it!!Oh well,back to the metal wash tub!ha,ha!
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Gail Nichols wrote 02/10/2006 02:36 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Beth Sparks ] #97620 - 02/10/2006 02:36 PM
Gail Nichols Webboard User Reg: 01-01-2006 Posts: 89 Loc: Midwest Offline	....something that folks do around here is to get a stock tank from a feed store,and have it for the dogs to dunk in. they come all different sizes,even deep enough for kids to use as a pool! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Gail
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 02/10/2006 03:47 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Gail Nichols ] #97621 - 02/10/2006 03:47 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	I've been wanting to buy a kiddie pool for so long, but all I find when I make a (very short) effort to find one is the adventure inflatable stuff for kids that his nails alone will rip apart, but I had totally forgotten about that option, good suggestion guys... turn my yard into a mud pit, excellent! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> My dog loves digging in water buckets so I'm sure he'd love a kiddie pool, even though he refuses to set foot in the swimming pool which would solve everything <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/10/2006 04:27 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #97622 - 02/10/2006 04:27 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: I've been wanting to buy a kiddie pool for so long, but all I find when I make a (very short) effort to find one is the adventure inflatable stuff for kids that his nails alone will rip apart,..... Oh, no, I didn't mean that kind! The one at Leo's club and the one I now have at home are rigid plastic, about 4 feet across and a foot deep. I got mine in June at a discount drug store when they put out the lawn furniture and inflatable toys. It was under $10. The mud pit part can be true, but I keep an old flannel sheet spread out just inside my door on pool or rain days.....and by the time they have walked across that their paws are pretty dry. Well, let's say drier, anyway.
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Bob Scott wrote 02/10/2006 05:04 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #97623 - 02/10/2006 05:04 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	One thing to keep in mind. When one of my hunting partners was in vet school, she talked about a lama that came in overheated. Some of the students decided to cool it down with an overall soaking with a hose. Bad move! Wetting all over, basically sealed in the heat. The lama died. Cool down a dog with water, ONLY by putting water on the belly and feet. This is really important if the dog is dark colored and can't be taken out of the sun. This didn't make sense to me till she reminded me of how hot it was when pond swimming on a hot, sunny day with levis on. The dark, wet levis soak up the heat and get really hot. Been there, done that lots as a kid. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/10/2006 05:11 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Bob Scott ] #97624 - 02/10/2006 05:11 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: One thing to keep in mind. When one of my hunting partners was in vet school, she talked about a lama that came in overheated. Some of the students decided to cool it down with an overall soaking with a hose. Bad move! Wetting all over, basically sealed in the heat. The lama died. Cool down a dog with water, ONLY by putting water on the belly and feet. This is really important if the dog is dark colored and can't be taken out of the sun. This didn't make sense to me till she reminded me of how hot it was when pond swimming on a hot, sunny day with levis on. The dark, wet levis soak up the heat and get really hot. Been there, done that lots as a kid. This would seem to go along well with the kiddie pool, which is too shallow to wet anything but the feet and belly (and face, for some dogs); the little dogs are in water just up to their bellies, and the big dogs' feet are wet unless they lie down, in which case their bellies are wet too. That is a very good point to make, and I plan to tell this to all the other people people in my dogs' training clubs. THANK YOU!
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Nancy Jocoy wrote 02/10/2006 08:26 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #97625 - 02/10/2006 08:26 PM
Nancy Jocoy Webboard User Reg: 05-03-2003 Posts: 924 Loc: Offline	I think the fundamental thing is you HAVE to keep the dog lean AND conditioned to the heat. There were several big long threads on this during the past summer when a sudden onset of heat caused all kinds of problems. A lot of dogs died as I recall....... I do watch the ears and they do get red it seems to me before the tongue does, but I also watch the tongue and the panting rate etc. When we go out in the summer, I keep a small cooler in the car with towels soaked in ice water just in case - I have used them on ME but the dogs have not needed them <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> -- (I know you don't want it TOO cold right on the dog, but it warms up pretty quickly)
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jeff oehlsen wrote 02/11/2006 02:38 AM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: Nancy Jocoy ] #97626 - 02/11/2006 02:38 AM
jeff oehlsen Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2002 Posts: 1303 Loc: Colorado Offline	I didn't see it mentioned, but iso alchohol is a good thing to keep on hand. It evaporates very quickly and I have used it on dogs stomachs to cool them down on the way to the vet. I am smarter than my dog, your just not.
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ann freier wrote 02/11/2006 04:05 PM Re: Heat & Heat Stroke [Re: jeff oehlsen ] #97627 - 02/11/2006 04:05 PM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	i think, that back in the day, before AC, that alcohol rubs were used to reduce fevers in humans (and they still may be), so it makes sense to me to have it on hand for dogs. large ears are used by various mammals in desert environments to disipate (sp?) heat: the hotter the animal, the more blood flow to the ears to help disipate, so the red ears makes sense to me--more blood flow. but, watching ear color seems like a little too little, too late. watch dog, condition it slowly, to working in heat. my dogs are completely opposite re: water. we have 2 cow tanks, the lab-X will dive right in when she's hot, the Dobe can hardly be forced outside when it's raining, much less voluntarily get into water (he's SUCH a pud). so there the iso would be a good option for a cool-down. FWIT
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