Henry Zektser wrote 02/22/2006 08:04 AM Re: Help! weird skin problem [Re: Henry Zektser ] #98808 - 02/22/2006 08:04 AM
Henry Zektser Webboard User Reg: 05-02-2004 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	I don't know if this will help or further the discussion, but here are pics: The spot: http://hzdev.net/mag1sm.jpg http://hzdev.net/mag3sm.jpg http://hzdev.net/mag4sm.jpg The hind quarters: http://hzdev.net/mag2sm.jpg I don't know if these are relevant, but his nipples are kind of dry/crusty: http://hzdev.net/mag5sm.jpg
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Mike Bishop wrote 02/22/2006 09:27 AM Re: Help! weird skin problem [Re: Henry Zektser ] #98809 - 02/22/2006 09:27 AM
Mike Bishop Webboard User Reg: 01-17-2005 Posts: 139 Loc: CO Offline	Henry - my dog has what looks like a very similar problem. He constantly scratches and has marks on his skin like the ones shown in the pictures of your dog. I had many tests done and the final conclusion by the vet was that my dog is allergic to most types of grass. Very frustrating because we do *all* of our training on grass fields and don't really have another viable option right now. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:6
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Henry Zektser wrote 02/22/2006 09:35 AM Re: Help! weird skin problem [Re: Mike Bishop ] #98810 - 02/22/2006 09:35 AM
Henry Zektser Webboard User Reg: 05-02-2004 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	Mike, what was the treatment? And what were the results?
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Mike Bishop wrote 02/22/2006 09:58 AM Re: Help! weird skin problem [Re: Henry Zektser ] #98811 - 02/22/2006 09:58 AM
Mike Bishop Webboard User Reg: 01-17-2005 Posts: 139 Loc: CO Offline	Initially the treatment was prednisone which did help but as soon as I took him off of it the symptoms returned. Sadly I was told the only solution is to keep him completely off of any kind of grass. In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:6
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/22/2006 10:56 AM Re: Thanks Connie [Re: Kelly Godwin ] #98812 - 02/22/2006 10:56 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: .... Currently she doesn't have fleas, and she's on the food (Purina O.N.E Puppy Formula) that she has been on since she was with the breeder. ..... I want to respond to these two things, but I do *not* mean to imply that I think the dog actually has a flea or food allergy. If a dog has a flea allergy, s/he doesn't have to "have fleas." One bite can affect the dog all over if s/he's allergic. A food allergy is virtually *always* to a food the dog has been eating for a long time. Allergies develop over repeated exposure. Age two is extremely common for developing food allergy symptoms, but as early as six months is starting to become more and more common too. Just wanted to clear up possible misconceptions.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/22/2006 12:45 PM Re: Help! weird skin problem [Re: Mike Bishop ] #98813 - 02/22/2006 12:45 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Initially the treatment was prednisone which did help but as soon as I took him off of it the symptoms returned. .... There is also the fish-oil-vitamin-E regimen, which I believe can help with any kind of non-bacterial dermatitis, even if the cause isn't yet pinpointed. By this I mean salmon oil (distilled, to leave out heavy metals) of pharmaceutical grade, plus mixed tocopherals (Vitamin E). Each time I have adopted a dog who was turned in for health issues, which usually turned out to be severe allergies with secondary ear and skin infections, I started with these two anti-inflammation agents. I keep my dogs on them, always, even after I get their underlying allergies under control. About Omega 3 EFAs and Vitamin E: http://www.leerburg.com/diet.htm http://www.barfworld.com/html/learn_more/efa.shtml http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FDN/is_2001_Sept/ai_80532259/pg_3
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Kelly Godwin wrote 02/22/2006 02:58 PM Re: Thanks Connie [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #98814 - 02/22/2006 02:58 PM
Kelly Godwin Webboard User Reg: 02-16-2006 Posts: 43 Loc: Offline	Thanks again Connie... as far as food allergies, would a food such as Innova Evo help? I have read great things about it and am sort of new to the dog world...
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Jenni Williams wrote 02/22/2006 03:05 PM Re: Thanks Connie [Re: Kelly Godwin ] #98815 - 02/22/2006 03:05 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	Raw is ideal, but since EVO has no grain, I think it's definitely worth a shot. Also, your dog is not huge, so the price isn't as much of an issue.
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Mike Bishop wrote 02/22/2006 03:14 PM Re: Help! weird skin problem [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #98816 - 02/22/2006 03:14 PM
Mike Bishop Webboard User Reg: 01-17-2005 Posts: 139 Loc: CO Offline	Quote: There is also the fish-oil-vitamin-E regimen Thanks Connie, actually I do give my dogs fish oil, flax oil, and vitamin E every day. I guess the only thing left for me to do is to keep him completely off of grass for a few months and see if his skin clears up....unless I could buy him a dog suite that would prevent direct contact with grass. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths. Proverbs 3:6
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Connie Sutherland wrote 02/22/2006 03:26 PM Re: Help! weird skin problem [Re: Mike Bishop ] #98817 - 02/22/2006 03:26 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: ....I do give my dogs fish oil, flax oil, and vitamin E every day. I guess the only thing left for me to do is to keep him completely off of grass for a few months and see if his skin clears up.... This is a long shot, I realize, but I've had two dogs who were allergic to flax. With them, I upped the salmon oil (not liver oil) and left out the flax seed oil. The dog suit might be too hot for training. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Otherwise, I have to agree with you that eliminating the suspected allergen(s) and observing the results is the most efficient trial.
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