Connie Sutherland wrote 03/21/2006 08:47 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (U [Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ] #101437 - 03/21/2006 08:47 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote:  Quote: I tried it and a prong on myself too. I imagine many people have! ...Yep and then a few years later I got a dog <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />... LOL .... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Might as well --- since you had the equipment anyway!
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Al Curbow wrote 03/21/2006 09:08 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (Utah) [Re: susan tuck ] #101438 - 03/21/2006 09:08 PM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	Hey Susan, i've got the dogtra 1500 2 dog model, and if you put that on your neck (snug) on 40 it'll shock the crap outta you, lol. My 20 yr old tough guy nephew will attest to that, man i never seen anyone sober walk or talk like that, then again, he didn't figure out the "who can hit the easiest" game until he was 12, <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, AL
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susan tuck wrote 03/21/2006 09:58 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (Utah) [Re: Al Curbow ] #101439 - 03/21/2006 09:58 PM
susan tuck Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2006 Posts: 1608 Loc: Cali & Wash State Offline	LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> You crack me up. I believe I'll take your word on the level 40! How many times did you need to "correct" the 20yr old?!? I bet if you had used a choke chain, he might never have got the message.
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Barbara Erdman wrote 03/21/2006 11:40 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (U [Re: Hugh Kendrick ] #101440 - 03/21/2006 11:40 PM
Barbara Erdman Webboard User Reg: 10-20-2005 Posts: 335 Loc: Long Island Offline	Quote: Poster: Hugh Kendrick I really wouldn't do anything to the dog that I thought was too cruel for my children: Would you? Yes. Dogs are animals and children are 'technically' are not <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> As my daughter thru up all over the living room floor this morning, the thought occurred to me that if she was crated, the mess would be easier to clean up <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Mike and Al, maybe you can get some video's of the human shock collar video's and get a collection started. Ed already posted a kid shocking himself with one. I saw an episode on Jackass where the guys were taking turns shocking the fat kid <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> He was screaming in a rage and ready to beat everyone up. The shock collar hurts by the looks of it. Is human shocking the new trend, for kicks and punishment? lol
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Hugh Kendrick wrote 03/22/2006 09:46 AM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (Utah) [Re: Judy Troiano ] #101441 - 03/22/2006 09:46 AM
Hugh Kendrick Webboard User Reg: 02-17-2006 Posts: 42 Loc: Wyoming Offline	I wondered how that would go down. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> First, my point is that E-collars and crates and leashes are not cruel when properly used; or we would not use them on our dogs. I guarantee, that if I thought that using them on my kids was necessary for their proper upbringing, I would use them. However, children being smarter animals than dogs and capable of greater feats of communication (sometimes anyway), other disciplinary and training techniques work better. All that said, I fail to see much difference between a "time out" and a crate, or grounding and a leash, or a smack on the butt and an E-collar stim. They are just different methods tailored to modify the behaviour of the particular animal undergoing training. Kids, and all humans, are not animals? I must say that the available evidence seems to indicate otherwise. Cowboys stay in the saddle just a little bit longer.
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Jan Williamson wrote 03/22/2006 11:00 AM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (Utah) [Re: Hugh Kendrick ] #101442 - 03/22/2006 11:00 AM
Jan Williamson Webboard User Reg: 08-10-2005 Posts: 483 Loc: NE Pennsylvania Offline	Quote: I fail to see much difference between a "time out" and a crate, or grounding and a leash, or a smack on the butt and an E-collar stim. They are just different methods tailored to modify the behaviour of the particular animal undergoing training. Excellent analogy - and so true! As you think, so shall you be.
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Leah Christian wrote 03/22/2006 12:06 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (Utah) [Re: Judy Troiano ] #101443 - 03/22/2006 12:06 PM
Leah Christian Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2005 Posts: 162 Loc: Texas Offline	Quote: You wouldn't put your kids on a leash, wouldn't put them in a crate, yada yada !! When my little sis was a toddler we put her in a harness and leash to keep track of her. It was great! I occasionally see parents who have toddlers on leashes and I thank them for being so responsible. If the kid is a wanderer, the parents are distracted, or the kid does not listen, why not? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Leah
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Hugh Kendrick wrote 03/22/2006 12:32 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (Utah) [Re: Debbie High ] #101444 - 03/22/2006 12:32 PM
Hugh Kendrick Webboard User Reg: 02-17-2006 Posts: 42 Loc: Wyoming Offline	Who says I am not a real cowboy? I can guaran-damn-tee you I have been bucked over the outhouse enough times to claim the title! Deb - Yes I know I already dealt with this in a PM but I guy has to defend his honor! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Cowboys stay in the saddle just a little bit longer.
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 03/22/2006 12:59 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (U [Re: Leah Christian ] #101445 - 03/22/2006 12:59 PM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Quote: When my little sis was a toddler we put her in a harness and leash to keep track of her. It was great! Yeah my brother had a leash for my nephew too, now he's moderately trained off leash but still likes to run off in stores n hide in the next aisle. I always see similarities between child behavior and dog behavior, other than species and amount of hair, they are actually very similar in alot of ways, the only thing is that my dog doesn't cry n whine when he doesn't get a toy at the store or get cranky before bed time.
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Judy Troiano wrote 03/22/2006 01:37 PM Re: Man arrested for using shock collar on kids (Utah) [Re: Leah Christian ] #101446 - 03/22/2006 01:37 PM
Judy Troiano Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2005 Posts: 979 Loc: New Jersey Offline
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