If you want, you can send the pic to me and I'll upload it for you and send you the link. My e-mail addy is ima_blue_meanie@yahoo.com<br />
You should have seen Djenga's bite at about the same age - it was TERRIBLE. Her front (adult) incisors just about pointed straight forward. I was worried it wouldn't correct itself, but I waited it out, and, over about 2 months, it gradually corrected itself, and now her bite is fine.

I would give your vet the benefit of the doubt...he IS a dental specialist, he's supposed to know about these things, right? Your pup is still growing, relax and give him the benefit of the doubt. I see the common opinion is also that pups grow, bites change...to wait it out.

And even if his bite doesn't correct, is it the end of the world? He can still eat...he can still bite the sleeve...aren't those the most important things?

Thanks Kathy, I tried your advice. I hope this link works, let me know if you can or can't view the pictures:

http://www.ofoto.com/I.jsp?c=4vqbepa7.77cii1lj&x=1&y=-ghxoju

What is the opinion of the bite on him based on these pics?

Also, if you're than unhappy with him, why not just get a refund from the breeder? What are your plans for the dog now?

LOL , Meghan, if it was only that easy!

I actually am not unhappy with the dog, he was a real nice pup, I am of course devastated by the development of the dentition problems.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Well, for sure I will not be doing Sch or breeding him, as I had originally hoped.....

But I don't understand, why can't you do schutzhund?

You're acting like this is 100% set in stone, cheer up, it looks to me like the odds are pretty good that it'll fix itself.

I just found out that my dog has bad hips. That is not something that's going to fix itself, and it's something that could cause problems in the future. But I am not giving up on her, I'll do what I can until she tells me she's had enough. I am just trying to put things in perspetive here...I KNOW I can't breed her, and she is definately breed quality, she's amazing. You still have a chance this will correct itself.

This won't affect his performance, he can still work. He'll still be completely healthy, even if his bite doesn't correct. And even if it doesn't, and you can't breed him...it's not the end of the world is it?

I just don't exactly understand why it's "not that simple." Either you are going to get a refund, or you'll keep the dog. Seems pretty simple to me...or am I missing something?

Hi, I have been reading this thread with interest. I went and looked at the pictures and to be honest they don't look bad to me. JMHO I had this happen with a pup about 6 years ago and when I noticed she was retaining a baby tooth I just continued to push on it until it finally came out. Her bite was starting to look exactly like the pictures but as soon as the adult teeth had room everything was fine. Why did you wait so long to remove the baby tooth, just out of curiosity? I saw that you feed RAW and Kibble, Isn't the idea to feed either raw or kibble to a growing pup so you can have some control of what is going into the diet? ---calcium / phosphorous ratio for growing bones & teeth

Denise

Hi Meghan, yes, there are pieces of the puzzle that I do not care to share here...suffice to say it is not that simple. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

And yes, it is the end of the world for me at this point, because I got him to do SCH and breed, which I can't do the latter, even if I chose to do the former, and so... I am not able to do what I planned. This makes me unhappy.

Denise, I had the tooth removed pretty much right away, so I don't know where your comment about waiting so long comes from??? Oh, wait ,LOL, now I remember... you have a pup from this same breeder's earlier litter.... has some one been wispering in your ear?? :rolleyes:

The dental specialist advised me that it was NOT just a simple tooth pull, that it involved going all the way down into the mandible and creating a space for the adult tooth to hopefully slide into...too soon to tell if this will occur. BTW, this has NOTHING to do with diet, it is an inherited genetic defect. My diet choices for my dogs are sound and have no bearing on this occurence.


For those who may not be aware, an underbite and/or a wry bite are breed disqualifications.

It's just that there are so many things that could go wrong with a puppy, and teeth aren't the first that come to mind that would have a serious bearing on the dog's health.

I got him to do SCH and breed, which I can't do the latter, even if I chose to do the former You don't know that...just because you don't *think* it'll correct doesn't mean that it won't. Don't you think the vet might have a little more experience in the matter?

I'm done here, I just feel like I am repeating myself. Oh wait, I am.

Lets try to stick to the original question in the post of if anyone else has had this happen.

I have to add though- that if one has intentions of breeding- buying a male with hopes of studding the dog out almost NEVER works. A dog can title and breed survey and STILL not be a good stud dog. Breeding programs are based on getting good females- the males are always out for rent. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Even with a female puppy- raising the dog to breed may be a disappointment- all the skeletal stuff passes- the dog can work- but then you find out the bitch is a terrible mother. Won't nurse her pups- or worse has fertility problems.

So anyway- that being said- if you REALLY want to get a dog for breeding you are FAR safer looking at an older proven breeding female. Puppies are a gamble no matter what. Even with a refund you have lost your time and effort.

Good point Deanna, yes I have certainly learned that what you say is true. I may just go the proven adult route someday down the road....

Now, back to my original question......