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[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#170165 - 12/21/2007 09:11 AM |
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I would be interested to know about whole chickens too.
The only thing I would want to know before feeding whole chickens would be whether dogs are likely to chew the feathers. Bones are hard enough that dogs know to chew them. Feather quills (if that is what they are called) may be soft enough to swallow but still sharp enough at the end to puncture. Again, I don't know.
Maybe I should have started a new thread about feeding whole animals. If so, any "M" should feel free to let me know.
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Re: anti-raw
[Re: David Eagle ]
#170167 - 12/21/2007 09:15 AM |
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Haha. Oh, I'm very process oriented. It's down to a science. Veg first, then meats (so I don't have to wash my knife or board more than once), meats get put away and hands washed, then the yogurt and the additives get mixed in...it's all very therapeutic for me, really.
Do you straighten out the fringes on your throw rugs too?? 
Seriously, I know what you mean. I am brand new to raw, but I think I get almost as much pleasure prepping her food as my pup does in eating it. It's been a great experience for both of us...
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[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
#170168 - 12/21/2007 09:22 AM |
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that thread was great sandy! thanks! i couldn't watch the videos since i don't have a youtube account 
(but i was excited to find out someone else makes videos of their dog eating....heh)
ben, that's what i was wondering too....if those quills can poke out of pillows, what would they do to the digestive tract?
i did start a thread about whole feeding a few days ago, and we've wandered back to it again. what can i say, it's something i really want to do!
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[Re: Ben Muncie ]
#170172 - 12/21/2007 09:53 AM |
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I would be interested to know about whole chickens too.
The only thing I would want to know before feeding whole chickens would be whether dogs are likely to chew the feathers. Bones are hard enough that dogs know to chew them. Feather quills (if that is what they are called) may be soft enough to swallow but still sharp enough at the end to puncture. Again, I don't know.
When I give my dogs (Beagles) a whole chicken they pluck most of the feathers off, they don't eat the wing tips with the big feathers. Any small feathers they eat pass through. If I give them just heads or feet they slightly chew them and swallow, I've never seen beaks or claws come out the other end.
(I got a HUGE laugh when I saw that one raw supplier sells chicken heads for $1.25 each.)
When they eat large quantities of hair from a beef or deer they will either puke up a hair ball (nasty) or they have very hairy poop.
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[Re: Debbie Bruce ]
#170180 - 12/21/2007 10:29 AM |
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My dogs will clean a pheasant carcass, and like Debbie says, the feathers stay on the ground. They just eat around them.
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[Re: Carol Boche ]
#170214 - 12/21/2007 12:29 PM |
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Dogs can really eat around anything, and tend not to eat things that have no taste index and no nutritional benefit...unless they're puppies. 
My sheltie hates the Vitamin E softgel tablets that I give. I can put it in the MIDDLE of a hunk of ground beef, and when I pick up his bowl, there it is. All alone, totally cleaned off, in the center of the bowl. The same with Kale, if I'm too lazy to process it.
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Re: anti-raw
[Re: David Eagle ]
#170241 - 12/21/2007 02:07 PM |
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I've had more of my dogs inhale kibble and seriously choke in the past, i haven't had this happen with raw other then a piece went down that was to big and the dog brought it back up to further chew it. But with anything the risk is there but i think the advantages far outweigh the risks in this case
In one of the books I have read Raw Meaty Bones, the author believes that the key to keeping a healthy immune system for you dog is a healthy mouth ( teeth and gums) so eating meat off the bone is essential. So the longer your dog has to work at his eating his food the better it is for him.
Bones are nature's toothbrush lol
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Re: anti-raw
[Re: David Eagle ]
#170245 - 12/21/2007 02:43 PM |
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My sheltie hates the Vitamin E softgel tablets that I give. I can put it in the MIDDLE of a hunk of ground beef, and when I pick up his bowl, there it is. All alone, totally cleaned off
Mine think they are gourmet caviar. LOL
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[Re: Terra Presotto ]
#170246 - 12/21/2007 02:47 PM |
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I've had more of my dogs inhale kibble and seriously choke in the past, i haven't had this happen with raw other then a piece went down that was to big and the dog brought it back up to further chew it.
i had luc get a steak bone stuck lengthwise inbetween his upper and lower teeth once. after watching him run around the house shaking his head with his jaws sort of propped open (i thought 'well, at least he's not choking') i got him and pryed the bone out. he got all upset ('she's trying to take my bone!'), b/c he's smart like that, but calmed down when i gave him the bone again (and he crunched it properly!).
Teagan!
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Re: anti-raw
[Re: Jennifer Mullen ]
#170252 - 12/21/2007 03:00 PM |
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My Dogs will happily chomp an entire chicken without the feathers,but have never actually eaten any of the birds they catch or find still feathered.
I have never fed anything whole other than those, My husband does bring home bunnies from time to time, but they are skinned and I dont watch them eat that meal, Im a softy.
They do however regularly hunt for moles and rats and bring them inside, or steal them from the cat and they do not eat these, they get played with, mangled and torn but never eaten.
So even eating raw they dont seem to make the connection between prey and food even though they are both REALLY prey driven with small animals and cats they dont know.
Even the cats dont really eat their catch, they only play with it until it gets boring. (so that i have to scoop up the peices in the morning :sick 
They will eat whole baby pumpkins though, its great fun to watch.
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