Wendy Roth wrote 01/08/2008 05:58 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, etc [Re: Jennifer Marshal ] #173942 - 01/08/2008 05:58 PM
Wendy Roth Webboard User Reg: 01-02-2008 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	OK, I'll try tethering her to me. She will end up getting quite a bit of exercise as I move around a lot! I do have a potty command, "potty." Normally works great! I do praise her and give her a treat for going outside. I think I'll try the No for pottying. Good suggestion regarding leash vs. hand on the collar. Thanks!
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Wendy Lefebvre wrote 01/08/2008 06:10 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, etc [Re: Wendy Roth ] #173945 - 01/08/2008 06:10 PM
Wendy Lefebvre Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2005 Posts: 1271 Loc: Stoney Creek , Ontario, Canada Offline	Hey Wendy, I haven't seen anyone mention anything about the dog not letting you pet her on the head yet, so i'll throw in my 2 cents worth here. Some dogs see a looming hand over them as a sign of dominance or they have had a previous negative experience with it. Before i get into ways to help her get over it, can you describe wether she just avoids it or pulls away or is fearful of your hand? I mean does she cringe in anyway when you do it, or is it just avoidance? Also, sitting or leaning on you is generally a sign of dominacne. Although you may not think she is trying to dominate...she may be trying to do it overtly..if that makes any sense. Try to avoid her doing it, if she does remove your leg, or whatever part of the body she is leaning or sitting on. Wendy Edited by Wendy Lefebvre (01/08/2008 06:12 PM) Edit reason: forgot something Don't complain....TRAIN!!!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/08/2008 06:17 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, [Re: Wendy Lefebvre ] #173948 - 01/08/2008 06:17 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Wendy Lefebvre Hey Wendy, I haven't seen anyone mention anything about the dog not letting you pet her on the head yet, so i'll throw in my 2 cents worth here. Some dogs see a looming hand over them as a sign of dominance or they have had a previous negative experience with it. I've met many dogs who didn't want to be petted on the head. I'm with you; I don't think it's uncommon. Even if there is no prior negative experience, I think it can be perceived by the dog as something that can obstruct vision, hearing, smelling.....
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Wendy Lefebvre wrote 01/08/2008 06:25 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #173950 - 01/08/2008 06:25 PM
Wendy Lefebvre Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2005 Posts: 1271 Loc: Stoney Creek , Ontario, Canada Offline	Exactly Connie... which is why i wanted to know what the dogs re-action was. Sometimes my dog doesn't like to be touched on his head and he will move his head away just out of reach, but he's not afraid...just isn't interested in it. Don't complain....TRAIN!!!
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Wendy Roth wrote 01/08/2008 10:19 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, etc [Re: Wendy Lefebvre ] #174001 - 01/08/2008 10:19 PM
Wendy Roth Webboard User Reg: 01-02-2008 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	Quote: wendy lefebvre Before i get into ways to help her get over it, can you describe wether she just avoids it or pulls away or is fearful of your hand? I mean does she cringe in anyway when you do it, or is it just avoidance? She jerks her head to the left or around to avoid the touch in an almost annoyed kind of way. She does not act scared at all.  Quote: Also, sitting or leaning on you is generally a sign of dominacne. Although you may not think she is trying to dominate... Even with boxers? I hear from almost every boxer owner that this is a boxer trait... that they are big "lap dogs." What do you think?
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Wendy Roth wrote 01/08/2008 10:36 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #174005 - 01/08/2008 10:36 PM
Wendy Roth Webboard User Reg: 01-02-2008 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	Connie,  Quote: It's completely confusing to a dog to be dragged to a potty and corrected. I am not sure what you mean here. When she does urinate (which is not all that often), She will pee right in front of me and I say "Ah,ah", clapping my hands while she is doing it. I catch and correct her in the act. Then I take her outside. Please clarify the dragged to a potty and corrected. Thanks.  Quote: I think it will be very helpful to you. :-) The explanation of "snapshot"-marking applies to correcting just as much as rewarding. OK, thanks for the info.  Quote: Also, you mention the full bladder thing..... perhaps she is not getting enough outdoor-potty opportunity. If so, that is definitely my fault. Common sense.  Quote: Personally, I almost never correct for indoor potty; May I ask why?  Quote: I "up" the opportunities for outside... and limit the chances for inside to just about zero. Yeah, have done that, but looks like I probably could let her our more frequently. I believe I have heard Ed says this can be bad in one sense because it trains the dog to have to eliminate more often. Finding the balance is key I suppose.
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randy allen wrote 01/08/2008 10:44 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, etc [Re: Wendy Roth ] #174008 - 01/08/2008 10:44 PM
randy allen Webboard User Reg: 08-30-2007 Posts: 3283 Loc: Offline	I think dog language is pretty universal. What happens when one dog leans on another? Or lays a paw on top of the other? Or lays their head over and atop the back of another. You are her pack, take it from there. No need to be mean about not allowing it. Just don't allow it outside of your own terms. Or if you do allow the behavior, be aware of what it is at the very least. If I'm not learning, I'm not paying attention. Randy
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Wendy Roth wrote 01/08/2008 10:52 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, etc [Re: randy allen ] #174010 - 01/08/2008 10:52 PM
Wendy Roth Webboard User Reg: 01-02-2008 Posts: 28 Loc: Offline	Randy, How would I do this on my terms if it is dominant without giving her the impression that I am submitting to her? Is it possible to allow any dominant behavior on my own terms? I am new to this, please explain. Thank you. PS I actually didn't know that a dog leaning on another dog is dominant behavior. She seems to want to cuddle or get warm or something.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/08/2008 10:59 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, [Re: Wendy Roth ] #174012 - 01/08/2008 10:59 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: wendy roth Randy, How would I do this on my terms if it is dominant without giving her the impression that I am submitting to her? Is it possible to allow any dominant behavior on my own terms? I am new to this, please explain. Thank you. YOU can invite the physical behavior, but not submit to it when she initiates. It is a dominant behavior for the dog to impede your movement, to be "on" you, to force your position to change, to demand petting, etc. A dog putting a paw on another's is showing power (dominance), just like laying his head on the other's head/neck. (Remember that dominance and aggression are not synonyms. "I'm in charge of you and your movements" is a dominant message.)
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/08/2008 11:06 PM Re: Need help in determining temperment/ hardness, [Re: Wendy Roth ] #174013 - 01/08/2008 11:06 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: wendy roth Connie,  Quote: It's completely confusing to a dog to be dragged to a potty and corrected. I am not sure what you mean here. When she does urinate (which is not all that often), She will pee right in front of me and I say "Ah,ah", clapping my hands while she is doing it. I catch and correct her in the act. Then I take her outside. I read this: "Yes, in all honesty, I feel angry. I don't loom over her but my voice has turned angry. Dog's are smart, they know when we're angry even if we don't sound it. I do end up dragging her towards the door because she is resisting. I don't know how I can calmly say, "com'on let's go potty outside (smile, smile)." I picture her tail wagging, happily going outside not knowing she did something wrong. what do you recommend?" END ....as dragging her to a potty-spot and scolding. I read/was wrong.
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