 Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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#177909 - 01/28/2008 10:40 PM |
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We'll have to wait and try if the pup does it great if not no big deal. Everyone seems to be so sure about the protection part wouldn't work, actually I was more concerned about the retrieve in obedience and the recall. When we did obedience with my current rr he would ALWAYS only come half the distance to me in the recall and lay down as if to say he'd meet me half way (unless he was leashed). Could never break that everything else was great, but that ended our obedience career.
I'm still going to keep looking for a rr that has been successful at sch. Regardless my having one is more important than it being best suited for sch work. My main priority is a healty friend with a good temperment and a typical rr.
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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#177979 - 01/29/2008 11:32 AM |
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We'll have to wait and try if the pup does it great if not no big deal... I'm still going to keep looking for a rr that has been successful at sch.
Just remember that even puppies from working line gsds or mals are a crap shoot for potection sports. If the breed wasn't even meant for that type of work it would be next to impossible to find a pup that could do the job.
You say you were more concerned about the retrieve and recall, but you have to take into account that without the protection phase there's no schutzhund. It's a protection sport. It's not retrieving or OB. It's protection.
In schutzhund you should be concerned with the 3 phases. OB, tracking, protection.
Brutus ZVV1
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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#178038 - 01/29/2008 04:29 PM |
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I've seen a couple of RRs that could probably do the work. Some are pretty serious dogs but with the right dog there is no reason they couldn't do it. Maybe not to the level of the "typical" Sch breeds yet I've seen neat performances by a few of the nontypical breeds.
One comment I'd like to make here about "stubborn" dogs/breeds.
IMHO that's nothing more then a training issue. If the dog is "stubborn" it's either not sure of the exercise OR it's not comfortable with it's training.
Having trained "stubborn" terriers for years I came to the conclusion that you can do anything you want as long as they think it's a game.
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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#178053 - 01/29/2008 05:23 PM |
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One comment I'd like to make here about "stubborn" dogs/breeds.
IMHO that's nothing more then a training issue. If the dog is "stubborn" it's either not sure of the exercise OR it's not comfortable with it's training.
Having trained "stubborn" terriers for years I came to the conclusion that you can do anything you want as long as they think it's a game.
That's a great point of view Bob, thanks for a good infusion of "where there's a will, there's a way"  I was wisely reminded earlier by someone to always keep an open mind when it comes to dogs and their capabilities... they're so easily underestimated or stereotyped. Cheers to you for successfully "convincing" some of the most stubborn of the stubborn to keep playing your game!  
~Natalya
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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#178063 - 01/29/2008 06:17 PM |
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I'm curious to see what happens, if Kathleen does give it a shot. Keep us updated!
I can't really imagine Jenga doing any protection work - he's missing most of the qualities necessary. I'm new to the breed, but they are just so different from your typical protection breeds, it seems like it would be difficult to find a dog suited to the work.
If I were really bent on doing schutzhund, I'd get a breed more suited to it, but it sounds like the poster won't be too disappointed if it doesn't work out.
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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#178104 - 01/29/2008 10:29 PM |
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Enrique, When I said I was not concerned about the protection part I meant that I personally wasn't thinking that part will be the hardest of our obstacles.
As far as being nearly impossible to train a dog who wasn't meant for the sport check out link below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTN5kTkdvME
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
[Re: Kathleen Heth ]
#178105 - 01/29/2008 10:48 PM |
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Thanks Bob for the encouragement. Of course I'm not looking to go to top level or anything. I'm confident it will work out. I'll keep you posted ... of course it'll be at least 6 months til I get another dog!
I'm with you about making it a game. Right now I have a rescue maltese who I've got her that I can hold my finger out and tell her packen she'll grab my finger. It's all play fo her but its so freakin cute! She's 4 pounds and leaving this week for her forever home. Went from scared of everything, neglected living in laundry room 24/7, matted into a body cast and snappy to the sweetest most confident dog who is on top of the world in the short time I've had her. NEVER thought I'd fall for a small dog but she's a tough little girl going to miss her TONS!
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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Enrique, When I said I was not concerned about the protection part I meant that I personally wasn't thinking that part will be the hardest of our obstacles.
As far as being nearly impossible to train a dog who wasn't meant for the sport check out link below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTN5kTkdvME
That video brought a smile to my face, thanks for posting it
That video brought a smile to my face, thanks for posting it
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Re: Rhodesian Ridgeback for schutzhund work?
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#178110 - 01/29/2008 11:08 PM |
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I love your attitude! More people need to do something with their dogs, and I think playing in SCH is a great way to bond and learn. Way better than having a pet that lies around with nothing to do. The worse that can happen is a well trained RR that is focused on you for fun . I personally know American Bull Dogs, Bouvs, Boxers, Schnauzers, Pits, and others (all are non-standard breeds ) that are very good at SCH and their owners have fun. Schutzhund is a sport that should be enjoyed by many. And you don’t always have to win.
You already know that you won’t be competitive, but think of how much you will learn! And you may get addicted and choose to get him a new brother or sister of a breed that you may be able to compete at a higher level with.
If SCH doesn’t work out, there are other sports to look into that are performed by breeds that were not “bred” for it. Let your dog lead you.
Good luck and have fun!!!
Jessica
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