I have used pepper spray several times to defend my dog against a stray dog attack. It's not pretty. One time, I used 2 cans right in the face (looked like a GSD/Akita mix). This one ran straight at us all the way across the park and attacked. He kept coming at us and I kept spraying (less than 3 feet). My GSD stood behind me as I told her to while I handled it. I've also used karate kicks to the hips and ribs with good results (but I'd just had a class to improve the power behind the kick). I've also been involved in an attack that the Sheriff had to break up. From my experiences, there is no easy answer to this problem. You must be very aware of what is around you and know how to use whatever you choose to defend yourself. Also, know what is legal to use where you live.

This is my *second* choice for defense from a loose dog:
http://www.asp-net.com/batons.html
http://www.coldsteel.com/vdsc.html


I still advocate the use of a handgun in a caliber above .40 and getting a CCW as your primary defensive tactic, it's your safest bet by far.

 Quote: will rambeau

This is my *second* choice for defense from a loose dog:
http://www.asp-net.com/batons.html
http://www.coldsteel.com/vdsc.html


I still advocate the use of a handgun in a caliber above .40 and getting a CCW as your primary defensive tactic, it's your safest bet by far.

I wish, I live in Illinois no CCW here. We are a "gun free zone" so unless I'm in fear of my life inside my home I can't use my firearm.

Well, I periodically carry a .40 also, but tactically speaking it isn't always the best tool for the job. In an urban environment you won't always have a good backstop. I wouldn't be too upset if I killed an attacking dog, but would be devastated if the bullet passed through the dog and/or ricochet and hit an innocent bystander. Some of that can be mediated by choice of caliber and bullet but it's still a huge responsibility that not everyone is willing to shoulder.

Some cities also have specific laws about discharging a firearm within city limits, regardless of the reason why. Still other states will prosecute you for cruelty if you shoot a dog (even in self defense). So it's best to check all those aspects thorougly, and if you still choose to carry a firearm you may want to consider a second weapon just in case your first choice isn't a good idea.

Sounds like you handled the situation well, and you did the best you can. I wouldn't allow your dog to fight the dog. Not sure if you've seen an all-out accidental dog fight before, but they're REALLY dangerous. Trying to separate two large dogs is both very difficult and dangerous. Not only that, but you'll feel helpless and desperate for help, especially if you're alone. They turn into super dogs when they're fighting for survival, which is why it's so damn hard to separate two pi**ed off dogs.

If you're not too fond of firearms, or your state won't simply allow it, a can of mace, stun gun, or stick/baton should suffice. I no longer walk my dog in the neighborhood anymore due to loose dog encounters on a daily basis. At one point, I was almost assaulted by an irresponsible dog owner because I kicked his dog (running loose, of course). I've used mace LOTS of times before, and it works most of the time. I also used to carry a compact stun gun. Collapsible batons (such as the brand ASP) are also good alternatives...that is, if your state allows it. Double check your state laws before you start carrying any of this stuff. If you want to opt for a Concealed Carry Weapon permit (CCW), also do some research on that. In some states, it is near to impossible to obtain one (coughcaliforniacough). In other states, they'll only require you to take an 8-hour course, turn in your CCW application to your local sheriff's dept, and bam, you got a CCW.

Poor Julio! I left that wretched state 14 years ago and never looked back...lots of sunshine but just not worth it. Haven't tried a stun gun but love my baton.

does a baton really work on a charging dog? I have a pathetic and somewhat hilarious mental picture of myself beating a dog over the head, the dog doesnt even notice the blows and I look like a 6 yr old girl without enough force to knowck it cold.
On second thought, I assume this is more for dogs who havent really made up there minds whether their that tough or not?

in my case it would probably be best to get mace or pepper spray? I have looked for them in the past but the only ones I found was 20$ for a tiny oz. can that looked like it could carry about 2 squirts: hairspray is much cheaper, would that work?

 Quote: julie wilson

Well, I periodically carry a .40 also, but tactically speaking it isn't always the best tool for the job. In an urban environment you won't always have a good backstop. I wouldn't be too upset if I killed an attacking dog, but would be devastated if the bullet passed through the dog and/or ricochet and hit an innocent bystander. Some of that can be mediated by choice of caliber and bullet but it's still a huge responsibility that not everyone is willing to shoulder.

Some cities also have specific laws about discharging a firearm within city limits, regardless of the reason why. Still other states will prosecute you for cruelty if you shoot a dog (even in self defense). So it's best to check all those aspects thorougly, and if you still choose to carry a firearm you may want to consider a second weapon just in case your first choice isn't a good idea.

Julie,
Two points to help in situations- the statement "I was in fear for my life and forced to defend myself".
That statement carries *a lot* of weight, especially when said by a female. You'd be amazed how helpful it can be when it's needed.

Next:
http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm
Glaser safety slugs. Learn about them and use them in urban situations, they're well worth your consideration.

 Quote: Mary Roach

does a baton really work on a charging dog? I have a pathetic and somewhat hilarious mental picture of myself beating a dog over the head, the dog doesnt even notice the blows and I look like a 6 yr old girl without enough force to knowck it cold.
On second thought, I assume this is more for dogs who havent really made up there minds whether their that tough or not?

I went to a stick fighting seminar several years ago and we were breaking cow femurs with batons and walking sticks by the end of day one.
So a baton or club can be an effective self-defense tool with a little training.

And for all of you living in those States that prevent ya'll from the God given right to self-defense.....move! Or get those idiot laws changed!
But moving is better, we need more level headed folks moving down to the South!