 Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Heidi Ludwig ]
#198400 - 06/12/2008 10:42 AM |
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Heidi,
Forgive me if I've missed it some where in the thread and the question has been asked and answered, but what sort of training has the dog received? General OB, any titles, or anything specialized?
I don't know (shrup here). It could be relevant.
If my dog isn't learning, I'm doing something wrong.
Randy
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Heidi Ludwig ]
#198402 - 06/12/2008 10:55 AM |
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. . . I've begun to take a good hard look at how we respond to Max. Let's just say we have a lot of learning to do. . . Funny thing, yesterday morning I took the dog for a quick walk on a short leash, my whole demeanor was different. Giving out instructions, not giving him freedom to investigate his surroundings etc. He looked up at me with this strange expression on his face...
Heidi,
On a positive note:
A lot of people have come here for advice and help with the basics of obedience and training, but I don't think many "get it" as quickly as you did. You've already figured out that it's time to wipe the slate clean and establish some new rules that Max will live with in his new home, regardless of what went on for the last 5 yrs. . . and that Max has already noticed that things are going to be different!
At least you have a dog that's apparently had a little ground work and doesn't have a lot of dangerous issues - not that a 100# GSD is anything to be too nonchalant about. There's always some potential when they are not controlled. And, yeah, trash that flexi-lead. 
Both you and Max seem to realize already that things are going to change. That's an indication you're both off to a good start. Keep using everything on this board to your advantage and you and Max will have a great time together.
Good luck.
Mike
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Heidi Ludwig ]
#198405 - 06/12/2008 11:16 AM |
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also said there was nothing in the dog's body language to alert me to a possible attack. I am in tune to what is going on around us and his response to people, sounds etc. .... Our dog will "never" go after me and what a ridiculous thing to say. .... What exactly is your problem anyway?
PS. You need more than coffee my friend..
There were signs. The fact is that you do not yet know how to read them. Lots of people don't! 
Unless the dog has rabies or an equally terrible neurological disease (and we know that he does not), there were signs.
There is nothing ridiculous about concern over a dog who has bitten biting again.
I have to tell you in the friendliest way possible that this board cares about the dog and the dog's training and the dog's ability to live securely in a pack that has structure and where the dog does not perceive that the leader position is open and needs filling. The feelings of the owner -- not so much.
But that's why you're here. You came to the right place. When you have found the right people to help, it's always good to take the help offered and ignore any "tone" that might rub you the wrong way.
I know I do! I get more help here than I have ever received anywhere els, and I rarely comment on an abrasive delivery.
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Lynne Barrows ]
#198411 - 06/12/2008 11:26 AM |
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Lynne, I hadn't thought of an invisible fence but I will certainly look into it. I don't know much about them. is that what you use? Thanks
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#198412 - 06/12/2008 11:28 AM |
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Connie:
" I get more help here than I have ever received anywhere els, and I rarely comment on an abrasive delivery."
Well......"abrasive"and/or defense comments coming from a poster that asked for help is one of the reasons that many knowledgeable posters don't offer advice much anymore.
Just another way of looking at the subject....
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Will Rambeau ]
#198415 - 06/12/2008 11:34 AM |
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... Well......"abrasive"and/or defense comments coming from a poster that asked for help is one of the reasons that many knowledgeable posters don't offer advice much anymore.
Just another way of looking at the subject....
Yup. Trying hard to make that clear.
As in "take the info and be happy; the point here is not the feelings of the O.P."
Along with the fact that the "offensive" post came from a very good, very experienced handler who makes very useful posts. And I for one want him to keep on posting.
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#198418 - 06/12/2008 11:40 AM |
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Connie, you and the others were right in saying there were signs and I just didn't read them...actually I didn't see them. I was adjusting the lawn sprinkler, it was at that moment that he ran through the hedge. My remark about the dog never attacking me has nothing to do with knowing he could bite at anytime... I was directing the "ridiculous" part at that particular poster. I appreciate your sharing the fact that you do not comment on an abrasive post. You are definitely a better person than I am. ( but you saw that the post was abrasive..smiles.)
I can see I have come to the right place and people here know what they are talking about, I respect that.
You wrote.... " It's always good to take the help that is offered"
Connie, I think you forgot to add, "take what you need and leave the rest".
I'm sorry if I seem ungrateful...thanks for your words of wisdom.
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Heidi Ludwig ]
#198419 - 06/12/2008 11:42 AM |
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You are definitely a better person than I am. ( but you saw that the post was abrasive..smiles.)
Holy cow, is THAT incorrect!
You have not seen an abrasive post! TRUST ME!
And Mike's posts are never even in the abrasive zip code!
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#198420 - 06/12/2008 11:43 AM |
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Me too (want him to keep posting!) Sometimes writing out what you have to say doesn't come out the way you may think to someone else. I just love all the different advice I've seen people give. Everything on this post has given me so much to think about with my own problems.
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Re: Our german shephard tried to bite our neighbou
[Re: Heidi Ludwig ]
#198421 - 06/12/2008 11:44 AM |
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Heidi, regarding the invisible fence, I don't have one, but my husband works on a large private estate, and the owners have 2 Siberian huskies. They use it in place of a barrier fence. And not under ideal circumstances; these dogs are not supervised when outside. One of the huskies occasionally 'breaks out' and because the estate is large, it's difficult to figure out where the breach occured. However, if the dogs were supervised, it wouldn't be an issue.
Since you supervise your dog when outside, it might be a nice solution.
Of course it only keeps the dog in (doesn't prevent anyone or anything from entering the property).
Sorry, I can't make a brand recommendation, but if you are considering it, start a new post and ask for recommendations. I'm pretty sure there are folks here who use or have used them in the past.
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