Quote: mike j schoonbrood

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There are kids involved here and for their sake, and their sake alone, I believe it's worth it to try, YET again, to offer constructive advice and help.

How much advice could there possibly be on this topic?

"Don't put your 2 year old next to n eating dog."

and

"Crate the dog when he's eating."

In a nutshell. Pistachio maybe.

Nut taken

I meant groundwork and pack structure in addition to the other.

 Quote: Alyssa Myracle

Same person.

I'm just trying to figure out what happened to all these dogs, and whether or not this lady has ANY business owning dogs.

She has claimed each of her dogs had aggression issues.

Either she's inventing dogs, or she's a pretty lousy dog owner.

Here's my limited interpretation of Bounette's posts:
She never adopted the Mal, due to some health issues, and got Kaiser instead.
She never actually said she was rehoming the second puppy, just that she needed a foster home for two months. No idea what happened to that puppy, but that was over 5 years ago and a lot could theoretically happen in that time.

I'm not defending her; I really have no idea.

I have no idea, either, but regardless, good advice was given in the thread that was linked above, and good advice has been given here.

Forum members who offer advice based on solid experience and dog know-how, in the interest of protecting both kids and dogs, are good people, and I sure do hope that they are not wasting their time. JMHO.

In a nutshell:

 Quote: mike j schoonbrood

"Don't put your 2 year old next to an eating dog."

and

"Crate the dog when he's eating."

 Quote: Bounette White

well as some of you may know i had been in a search for the perfect pet for my family.

Hello,

I would like to begin first by saying there is absolutely no such thing as a perfect pet. Nor a perfect spouse, or child, etc. If one sets up that ideal, that individual is doomed for immense disappointment and regret.

There is only complementary. We need to accept others for their imperfections before being able to see them as being 'perfect'. And the success of any animal or human integrated into a household is based a lot on the primary caregivers.

Anyway, it seems you have received very good advise from experienced dog owners.

I do like to say that I think it was unfair and counter-productive to correct your dog. While your dog will see you as the Alpha, it still sees the young child as lower in the hierarchy and will not be able to fully grasp why it was corrected for ... except to defend its food or even eating.

I would create an environment where the dog is able to eat without being disturbed, and work with the child so she understands there are boundaries to adhere to ... just as a dog knows it has its own boundaries.

Good luck, and I hope you will listen to these constructive words from everyone and be a better dog owner.

~ Rei

o.k. guys.... wow.. just got back to my pc after dinner, hw,family stuff etc... and all i can say is wow.

first,,, i never post a question other than the reason of wanting hlep and advice from people i think have way more knowledge and experience on the subject than I. so i take all advice BUT, i must say this. if anyone asks for advice and just runs with it without processing the info in their own head needs some evaluation.

second...i must say that i started a monster...you guys have lost of venom to spit don't you...i mean really... you sound like a bunch of hard life, full of spite bunch.......
that's for the harsh comments...

now i will address the questions.... then on to the issue at hand.

i have one dog and that's Doser.
Kaiser went back home because of advice i got on here and other forums i decided that kaiser was too timid and scared of a dog, that appeared to me to have some abuse in his past, too risky to chance with my children. so i talked to the previous owners and we agreed if anything goes wrong to call them,,, so i did that and he went back to them. they decided to find him a home with no children.
i never adopted the mal because when i was to go out and see him the woman called me and told me her knee was blown and would have to get surgery and could not adopt her out until healthy, of course.
next... to go back 6+ yrs.....
my family went through some very difficult hardships and had to move out of state. personal reasons i would not disclose on a dog forum,sorry. anyways we had to rehome ourselves and i tried to find the dogs i had at the time a temp home until our situation improved..the temp turned into perm. they were happy, it all worked out.

and of course there was my baby girl that died very suddenly


o.k. now on to what i came here to get constructive experienced advice about.....
Doser.

so the reason why he had a chance to growl 3 times is because the first time i was obviously not ready and shocked after he was so great previously.. so i let my daughter go around his bowl again to see what actually was happening. at that time i had him leashed because we were outside before i fed him. anyways i had been doing nilf with him. had been watching closely and supervising, but i'm not going to lie, he showed to be so good with the kids i was very confident in their interactions. anyways back to him growling, he has been on leash now since that happened. and yes my child and doser have been in the same room but not close to each other. i did get advice to have her feed him though so we did do that. other than thtqa no contact. sooooo...please offer what you can. i'm waiting on this behaviorist to call me back. i will read up on the advice i had been given before.

any good advice will be well taken and utilized..any bashing will be ignored so don't waste your time. thankyou to those who are good heartedly handing your advice and knowledge to me.
thankyou

oh i understand that there is no "perfect"
i did not mean thst literally. i just meant a dog that would be good with kids, no agressive dog, and a dog that would be active and lie an active family...and he was all that...so far he had been anywayas....he has things tha are not perfect...like his barking. he is a very vocal dog. very...i could do with out that but it grew on me that quickly. i could list more but you get my drift. i didn't mean perfect in a literal sense.

 Quote: bounette white

so the reason why he had a chance to growl 3 times is because the first time i was obviously not ready and shocked after he was so great previously.. so i let my daughter go around his bowl again to see what actually was happening. at that time i had him leashed because we were outside before i fed him. anyways i had been doing nilf with him. had been watching closely and supervising, but i'm not going to lie, he showed to be so good with the kids i was very confident in their interactions. anyways back to him growling, he has been on leash now since that happened. and yes my child and doser have been in the same room but not close to each other. i did get advice to have her feed him though so we did do that. other than thtqa no contact. sooooo...please offer what you can. i'm waiting on this behaviorist to call me back. i will read up on the advice i had been given before.

"Venom" (your word) is what in triggered here when a baby is put at risk repeatedly..... and, in fact, when a dog is put at risk. In this case, both were happening.

OK. On leash is good. Not close to your baby is good.

The baby feeding the dog is bad; that's way too close, and involving food (a proven trouble spot).

This: "so i let my daughter go around his bowl again to see what actually was happening" is very bad. Please don't challenge the dog or try to re-assess this kind of thing using your baby.

 Quote: Bounette White

... i just meant a dog that would be good with kids, no agressive dog, and a dog that would be active and lie an active family...and he was all that..

A week with a rescue is nowhere near enough time to know a dog well enough to have him near your baby, and when you put food (or toys, or sleeping) into the equation, it's even less so.

Hi I am not much on food agresion.
But I will say this I have a 6 pound chi that I am having problems with I would not let him around a 10 year old much less a 2 year old.
With that said Do feed him in the kennel like said before.
You said you where keeping him leashed to you so that is good.
You should also not let the kids oplay tug a war or any game like that.
Thats all I have for you sorry but it was something I did not see said yet