Quote: Alyssa Myracle

 Quote: michael hubert

no, i was asked, from my breeder,for a german club, dont have the time.

How can you train PPD, if you don't know how to decoy?

This is something that I would truly like to see addressed.

im going to protection work tonght with both my dogs, there here with me everyday, doesnt slow them down or set them back , never has. and the stepping on the foot..... no comment

 Quote: michael hubert

im going to protection work tonght with both my dogs, there here with me everyday, doesnt slow them down or set them back , never has ...

Do you mean that you have a PPD trainer working with you and your dogs?

Do you understand why stepping on a foot can cause a setback in training a PPD/Sport dog?

Because my dog is the type that would completely ignore the dogs, and instead choose to follow you, or any other person, around the entire daycare, all day.

 Quote: michael hubert

im sorry camron, you should really see what we do here before you comment, i knew your comment would say something like that, all owners are responsible for the actions of thier dogs, they sign a release, belieive me our asses are covered, and its our jobs to make sure the dogs have a safe enviornment. again you do not understand. if something happens ,it happens, but overall we have a huge amount of clients that love it here. i mean the humans as well as the dogs. if you could see into the future we would all be millionaires.

Michael, I answered what you asked me, and it was based on what you yourself said.
We have 4 doggy daycare centers here, but we used to have 5. The 5th was shut down due to a lack of business after a dog fight resulted in the death of a dog. The dogs were introduced the way you have described, and rather than the growling dying down, 3 dogs attacked the new dog. Business shut down within a week, and litigation still continues. When a death occurs, it can sometimes go into gross negligence, which is not always covered by liability releases. Not to mention a dog died needlessly, which goes very quickly around the town via word of mouth. Liability releases don't cover that either.
You asked me, and I answered. And my answer may have been a bit abrupt, and I am still a little heated by some of the instigation I have gotten. I was trying to answer in a diplomatic way, from the point of being concerned, but apparently my irritation still shows. I apologize for the way my post was apparently taken, and I will stop posting at this point.

We have doggie day care facilities in town here that are run a lot like how Michael describes his, dogs playing around together in an enclosed space. As Carol says, a lot of pet owners are happy with this, including a friend of mine whose goofy labradoodle does just fine there. But this only works if there is a good system for screening out dogs who are not going to react well to this environment, hence my original question to Michael. I think, Michael, that my GSD would likely pass your admission test: he's playful, very people-friendly, much better trained than most pets, not at all nervous or fazed by new situations, good with children and fine with other dogs *provided* that they don't challenge him in any way. But if he thinks that another dog is failing to accept his status as #1 alpha dog he turns into a real bada$$. I would, obviously, never leave him at a day-care center or take him to a dog park.

I don't think it's as simple as just saying "we don't accept aggressive dogs". Any dog can become aggressive under the right (or wrong) circumstances. How do you identify and deal with dominant dogs? I wonder how many doggie day care places end up banning a dog only after it has caused trouble, and that's a risk you take if you leave a pet there.

my dogs pretty much follow me around most of the day, maximus is usually behind the desk, hes pretty much anti social, daegon is a goof. as for the protection work there are 3 or 4 trainers, we take turns decoying,like i posted before i still have to tweek my aggitation skills.

So, like I said, do you understand why it would set my dog back in training, if someone accidently stepped on my dog's foot? I'm not talking about injury here. I'm just talking about that very common incident, where the dog is right underfoot, and you accidently stop on the dog's toes. Dog says "yipe", you say, "oh I'm sorry puppy, are you okay?" No injuries, more of a shock than anything for the dog.

Do you understand why that would set my dog back in her training?

What problem are you having with your aggitation work?

sarah ,to answer your question most agressive dogs,in my opinion, dont hesitate and will just react ,high confidence, we actualy have taken in other dogs that have been banned from other places, so what people call "aggressive" can be a dog barking too much growling, playing too ruff, ect. its funny peoples take on certain dog behavior.its something i have to see, my dogs make the ultimate descision, i read my dogs, unfortuantly there can be only one alpha if a dog doesnt accept my dogs as alpha, i will stand in and control my dogs, safty is number one, but ill let the dog know what he can and cant do.

Just reacting is a sign of confidence??