She is staying with me and the Bulldogs in the main house. She gets along well with them. The others are in a separate part where they can go out a doggy door into about an acre of land fenced. So far mom and her other daughter who is 17 months and Sierra who is 6 and gets along with all the dogs in the house stay together in and out of the house.

I do have the ones that are fighting apart. They are never together. I sold the male to a wonderful couple who has him in classes and gets one on one training and was also neutered. He is doing very well.Thanks for any info you gave. I really appreiciate it.
TTYS
Roanne

Yes, separate them. The key word is structure. You can't establish the structure and routine they need without separation. I'm just guessing but when you say they have a pack order in your house I think that it is how they decided to live, not following the rules you have set for them. You don't sound stupid at all, just someone who hasnt had these type of problems in the past but now you do. I've never seen the dvd but I would bet the first step for you needs to be separation to manage the problem.

I'm a bit confused....sorry, just me being dumb.

You have 7 dogs:

Harley (female mastiff)

Harley's mother (female mastiff)
Daughter (female mastiff)
Sierra (female mastiff)

Bulldog 1
Bulldog 2
Bulldog 3

Which dogs are fighting right now, and which ones are getting along? You mentioned they were fighting and that they weren't.

Is the current set up Harley + the 3 bulldogs living together? With no fighting?

And then the three remaining female mastiffs live together, and sometimes interact with the bulldogs, but not Harley.

Is that correct?

I might have missed it, I know you normally crate in the car, do you crate in the house as well?

What dogs other than Harley are aggressive/fight? Who is Harley targetting? Are the other dogs getting into fights with each other?

WOW!!!! That is a whole lot of big dogs under one roof! You mentioned having 20 years of experience with the breed but have you always had so many? I had enough difficulty raising my one dog let alone 7 at a time, and based on their ages you have quite a spread of developmental stages. I agree with everyone else that separation of all the dogs is essential unless you are there to directly supervise. With that being said until you feel confident that you are in charge I don't think I would run more than 2 dogs together at a time.

I think working with each dog individually on a daily basis will be necessary for you to become proficient at reading each dog and determining what their particular trigger points may be.

BTW the incident that occurred at the vets could have brought on a similar response from my dog who is neither dominant nor dog aggressive; he is however, possessive of his vehicle and *blush* possessive of his poop. This might not be the case for your girl but I don't think attacks are ever unprovoked unless the dog is unstable and she sounds pretty normal

Keep reading and learning there is a ton of knowledge here and I think your question of where to begin has been answered....separate the dogs.

 Quote: Jennifer Mullen

You have 7 dogs:
Harley (female mastiff)
Harley's mother (female mastiff)
Daughter (female mastiff)
Sierra (female mastiff)

Bulldog 1
Bulldog 2
Bulldog 3

Which dogs are fighting right now, and which ones are getting along? You mentioned they were fighting and that they weren't. ... Is the current set up Harley + the 3 bulldogs living together? With no fighting? ... And then the three remaining female mastiffs live together, and sometimes interact with the bulldogs, but not Harley. ... Is that correct? ... I might have missed it, I know you normally crate in the car, do you crate in the house as well? ... What dogs other than Harley are aggressive/fight? Who is Harley targetting? Are the other dogs getting into fights with each other? ....

Those questions are floating around in my mind too.

 Quote: Roanne Rist

.... and am just now getting into trouble with them as they get older. when they fight its horrible. If I try and break them up they hold on tighter to whoever they have a hold on.

Which dogs are fighting (meaning, of course, that they are not separated)?

Which are allowed access to each other?

Ok.
Harley and Rosie don't get along. They look at each other wrong and a horrible fight breaks out. Harley gets along great with all the dogs except her mom who wants to be in charge of all the dogs and could pick a fight with any of them if the situation was there.
Sierra 6
Rosie 4
Harley 21/2
Lace 18 months
Bulldogs
Ruby 2
Safari 7 months
Nemo 8 months

The fighters are Rosie and Harley. Now that I'm writting I think Rosie would fight with any of them. She wants to run the house. Hmmmm
I have that many because I show them and after they reach their championship I might breed them.Which of the tapes do you think I should start with? And should I work only with one dog at a time? I really appreciate all of the help. If I had one dog their would be no problem figuring that out.Btw I am fairly new to the site and it is awesome. I just have to figure out how to put it all together.
Roanne

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Roanne Rist

Oh, after the fight incident I keep Harley and Ruby away from Rosie. I used to crate them all but now I only crate the 2 yougest bulldogs. Rosie is kept separate from Harley. Oh and I don't know if it means anything or not but Rosie is always sucking on Lace and Sierra's ears. yuck.....

Sounds like you need 8 dog crates.

You can see the dogs on my website at http/www.rockeetopmastiffs.com