I can't pretend to not agree w/you just to keep things interesting, LOL! I don't know what you want from me...all I ever wanted to do w/my posts was to add to your already correct analysis. Gee, men are hard to please these days.
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QUOTE: To him, my mother was someone he didn't ever remember meeting ... He has been trained to defer to me UNLESS I am physically or otherwise incapacitated. END
Neither point illuminated the post about the B&H, which is why it took people aback, IMHO.
QUOTE: I don't think this is pertinent in the OP's situation, anyhow. END
Neither do I.
QUOTE: He doesn't sound like he has other major issues, so I don't really think this a huge problem PROVIDED YOU DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO NIP IT IN THE BUD NOW. END
Exactly.
QUOTE: A low growl is a warning....he's not being submissive. Please try not to over-analyze and instead just take precautions to make sure this good dog doesn't end up having problem behaviors that are much harder to fix. END
I couldn't have said it better.
Bullys are pack animals too, but what motivates their behavior is different from guardians. This dog is "fussing and posturing" when he is seeing something he cannot understand and does not instinctively know how to react to. I think a well bred guardian would be very clear in their position - and it would be up to the handler to control the situation. All I am saying is when training this dog take this into consideration. I guarentee this PB DOES NOT WANT the job, it will be easy to take it away from him.
Maybe it's just a writing style Jenni, but for some reason some of your secondary comments(like the bark and hold one) just always seem to stand out when I read some of them.
I thought that explaining that I'd just gotten out of the hospital and was asleep kind of tied into "deferring to me UNLESS I am physically or otherwise incapacitated. I was pretty incapaciatated, or my mother wouldn't have had to come over, lol. I'm a pretty independent kind of gal, LOL!
Sorry you don't like my writing style, Steve. I really don't know what else I say without further derailing this from helping someone w/an issue to an argument about me and my dog. I invited you to PM me for further discussion...you have not. Let's leave it alone before Connie has to get her broom.
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This dog is "fussing and posturing" when he is seeing something he cannot understand and does not instinctively know how to react to. I think a well bred guardian would be very clear in their position - and it would be up to the handler to control the situation. All I am saying is when training this dog take this into consideration. I guarentee this PB DOES NOT WANT the job, it will be easy to take it away from him.
Completely, totally, 100% agree. This dog is doing this because he thinks he should, not because he wants to!
Jenni,
Don't you keep a ppd?
That is certainly a lot different then keeping a family dog.
I mean, it's basicly a pack of two at that point isn't it? Or for however far.....family etc. And the dog has to listen to whom ever is in the pack, not just defer, but listen and obey.
It's nothing that important to PM. We have a different perspective from different experiences. Its not a matter of like or dislike, it's an interesting conversation.
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