Re: Feeding a puppy Solid Gold Wolfcub 
				
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				I called Purebred and asked for the first 3 ingredients. They are beet meal, cooked ground corn, and cooked ground wheat. I asked for the next few and they weren't meat either. So much for high quality protein sources!     Worst food I've ever seen!    
That would explain not posting the ingredients on the big fancy web site.
 
The first ingredient is "beef meal," however.
 
Not that it is now a wonderful food by a long shot, but "beef meal" is in first place on the adult dog version.
 
That helps a little, but I maintain that there is no way EVER that I would buy a food with a secret ingredient list, not fit for web site inclusion.
 
And I had to fight, and go through three phone extensions and give my name, to get those three.  Reluctantly.
 
You were tougher than I, Cathy, to make it through to SIX ingredients with them.  
 
And they were all suspicious, as in "Why do you want to know?  Who are you?"  Seriously!  Like "How come you don't just buy it?  We SAID 'all the best ingredients!' "
 
Sheesh  ....  secret ingredient lists in FOOD .....								
				
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The first ingredient is "beef meal," however. 
 
And I had to fight, and go through three phone extensions and give my name, to get those three.  Reluctantly. 
 
You were tougher than I, Cathy, to make it through SIX ingredients with them.   
 
  
Ah that would make more sense than beet meal.    Still not a good food but better than crap like Beneful. Strange that you had so much trouble though. I simply asked for the first 3 ingredients, was put on hold for about a minute, and then was given them. No problems when I asked for the next 3 either. I didn't get transferred or have to give my name or anything. I wonder why they gave you such a hard time. 
 
I'm unemployed and bored out of my mind. I would have had a lot more fun if they wanted to try and make me jump through hoops to get the info.     That could have been today's entertainment.								
				
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				 ...  Strange that you had so much trouble though. I simply asked for the first 3 ingredients, was put on hold for about a minute, and then was given them. No problems when I asked for the next 3 either. I didn't get transferred or have to give my name or anything. I wonder why they gave you such a hard time.  
I'm unemployed and bored out of my mind. I would have had a lot more fun if they wanted to try and make me jump through hoops to get the info.     That could have been today's entertainment.   
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
Maybe because my first question had an undercurrent of "WTH?  You don't put your ingredients on your web site??!!"  
 
It might somehow have made it into my tone what I thought about having to call them to ask for something so basic rather than just read it on the web site.								
				
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				Has anyone else noticed how good food companies brag about the good ingredients right up front, and then we have the "other" foods that have the gorgeous interactive web sites but about six steps to take before actual ingredients lists pop up?  
Beneful's Healthy Radiance, starting with ground yellow corn, chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, and whole wheat flour as the top 4, as an example  --  I guess I'd put as many steps as I could, too, between the Home page and the actual list of stuff in the food. 
 
But just leaving the ingredients off completely ... ingenious!								
				
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				I have my pups on Solid Gold Wolf Cub. My opinion of it is that it is a good quality food when compared to most other kibbles, but for the money, I think there is better. The only reason I'm feeding it is because that's what the breeder had them on (the GSD that is... our collie's breeder had him on Purina). My wife didn't want to mess around with their diets since they were so young, but now I'm looking to get them off solid gold and onto something else. 
I'm considering raw feeding, and I recommend you at least do some research.
 
If you do decide to keep the dog on commercial kibble, check out this site:  http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/
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				Has anyone else noticed how good food companies brag about the good ingredients right up front, and then we have the "other" foods that have the gorgeous interactive web sites but about six steps to take before actual ingredients lists pop up?  
 
Beneful's Healthy Radiance, starting with ground yellow corn, chicken by-product meal, corn gluten meal, and whole wheat flour as the top 4, as an example  --  I guess I'd put as many steps as I could, too, between the Home page and the actual list of stuff in the food.  
   
Keep going and you'll find they add SUGAR to their dog food even the puppy food. I used to love playing "find the meat" with customers while I worked at PetSmart. Most of the time they left with a much better food. I don't get it. Why do people never check the dog food ingredients when they buy it? Top response from customers "But my dog loves it!". Kids love candy but you don't see people letting them eat it everyday of their lives.								
				
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				Dogs being particularly vulnerable to sugar-fed cancers need sugar in their daily meal   like they need bread at their meals. 
Sugar (and/or salt) in dog food ----  how it can be justified is beyond me.
 
Of course, both have addictive qualities ....								
				
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				I just wanted to be clear with the OP about their new puppy (congrats btw) that they are talking about a gsd or similar sized puppy.  
BTW I have no issue with the solid gold brand. They've had some questionable history and the lady who owns the company is mental but I've seen some decent results using it. 
 
There are lots of reasons to pick kibbles which include quality of ingredients, cost, and results. I personally switch bags and brands often. Like 2-3 times a week. I shop sales and can usually cut costs this way as well by keeping a 3 - 6 month supply of chow on hand at all times. I've also noticed when employing this method I can adapt to the nature of the foods I'm using such as I always add more oil when I'm feeding Natural balance or use an evening meal that has more fat for my toy dogs for better results. 
 
I personally tend to be an insanely busy person and do a 50% kibble 50% raw diet for my pack and it works for my lifestyle. One day I'd like to move to a carcass model but for now this works.								
				
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				Thanks to all of you, but now I am more confused then before.  If non of these are good, that what should I start her out on?  I really don't see any sugestions just converstation about what not to feed.								
				
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