Mainstream media isnt my thing,to many people have OD'd on the stuff . . . . . .

 Quote: Tom Sargent

Mainstream media isnt my thing,to many people have OD'd on the stuff . . . . . .

Huh?

I have followed this thread due to having a dog with severe flea allergy and I've found few things to adequately treat the fleas but you've lost me on this last post.

Nora, you are not alone.......

Forgive me for thinking this was a working dog forum,guess y'all just abit to squeaky clean for the likes of a Ole bull dog,hound dog kinda fella ?
Cant recall to many GSD out in the bush running 4-6hrs chasing 300+lb pigs 4 out of 7 days a week protecting crops.
Well bred healthy working stock (Bulldog,APBT,Black Mouths,Plotts,Catahuola,Dogo)get real dirty when they "work".All kinds of nasty bugs out in the "working fields"
When the "store bought"(Advantage) stuff doesn't work a working man needs something better then what the "up town" crowd uses because his crew works where there isn't any heat,A/C or plush carpet grass.

Bayer lost millions in revenue because the product worked for the "working dogs" last few years working folks were getting away with all the profit.
Bayer catches wind and changes the formula with additives known as harmful to pets.Working Dog men are left to find another product after their reserves run out and the game plays on in the working woods and fields of world.

Umm...

Ever heard of Search and Rescue?

Military Working Dogs?

Police K9s?

Yeah... our dogs get exposed to nasties too.

I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out how Bayer lost money because people were buying their product...

Tom, No one said you can't do it. Trust me we're not standing in your way. They're your dogs, do with them what you want within the boundries of the laws of your area.

What I said is you shouldn't without knowledge of the consequences of that action. When you start throwing in unknowns for me that's when red flags show up. Screwing around with poisons is a little different than using dawn dishsoap in leau of flea dip. Consequences of messing around with those poisons are severe and we have a lot of people visiting this site who may not have the resources or the knowledge to deal with those potential side effects. So for those people I want to make it very clear, yes people do this and claim it works, but the learning curve for something like this needs to be understood. You do have the potential to kill your dog doing this with no recourse because it's offlabel, there may not be vet support that can help you, you may be breaking a law depending on your area, you do have the potential to poison your dog doing this, and you don't know what chemicals might cause side effects because Bayer doesn't list them.

If you're willing to accept these risks go ahead. It's not about who has working dogs, real working dogs, or housepets. It's about caring about dogs.

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Bayer lost millions in revenue because the product worked for the "working dogs" last few years working folks were getting away with all the profit.

Millions of dollars? do you have a source to quote? In order to lose millions of dollars they'd have to be missing out on the sale of hundreds of thousands of doses.

Some alternatives to might be to use a permetherin based product that is marketed for dogs and horses or if you have smaller dogs buy a larger sized dose and accurately split it between dogs(using a needle and syringe to measure)

Using regular ivermectin is different that using plant pesticides because the ivermectin is still a product that is sold for animal use, and animals that will be used for human consumption at that. There is not going to be some unknown chemical that is going to give long term harm to the animal when used in the proper dose.

Thanks for the explanation Tom. Now I really don't know WTH you're talking about.

 Quote: Michael_Wise

Thanks for the explanation Tom. Now I really don't know WTH you're talking about.

LOL! Me, too, Michael.

I have an itchy dog right now, but due to her recent illness I don't want to give her any flea meds right now. And, I'm finding out that I may have increased her itchiness because I've been using human formulated shampoos (a lot this week, several times).

Course she aint' chasin' bulls or anything. lol