 Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#255347 - 10/23/2009 06:15 PM |
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Brian, do you have a pack? If so, I want to give you a big heads up on food left with a dog pack. Please don't do it.
Here's one of many articles and threads you'll find on this site:
https://leerburg.com/qadogfight1.htm
is an article by Ed on dog fights in the home:
QUOTE: No dog trainer worth his salt would try and do what you are doing – let these dogs run loose in the house and then free feed them.
QUOTE (question): I have 2 dogs. I've had my Rot for about 6 years and I've had my Akita/Lab mix for about 1 year. About 2 months ago my Akita/lab mix started fighting my Rot for food and water. They are both females (the Rot is fixed, the Akita/lab mix is not). It started over the food, then we made a pen for the Akita/lab mix for feeding time. Now it is over the water. Is there any way I can get them where they are not aggressive?
(answer): This is an owner problem, not a dog problem. You don’t understand pack behavior. If you care to learn you can start by reading my web site. There is a ton of information there. Find a home for one of these dogs – this problem is beyond your experience.
Many will think "This doesn't apply to me." That's what people might think until a life-changing dog fight happens in their home.
I'm not trying to be confrontational. I am telling you that this statement is scary in its lack of pack knowledge: " ... you can't control every feeding situation, and if they don't become comfortable eating as a pack how will they learn structure?"
But you're in the right place!  You'll get good info from experienced folks -- although it won't be sugar-coated. 
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#255349 - 10/23/2009 06:20 PM |
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Don't get me wrong connie, I'm not saying that I drop food and leave, I always supervise but my dogs have always eaten together, each has his own food bowl an I make sure they keep to their own.
Once I get them to understand this is the way it is to be, then they (for the most part) stick to the rules.
And for the record Connie I was not disagreeing with your method of feeding I was disagreeing with being able to control every situation containing food.
" I mean, you can't control every feeding situation ...
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Brian Blanchette ]
#255350 - 10/23/2009 06:21 PM |
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Don't get me wrong connie, I'm not saying that I drop food and leave, I always supervise but my dogs have always eaten together, each has his own food bowl an I make sure they keep to their own.
My method too.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Brian Blanchette ]
#255351 - 10/23/2009 06:30 PM |
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heh we posted at almost the same time.
Please understand that my pack is always supervised at feeding time. The only point I'm trying to make is that if they don't eat together they will be more likely to fight for food when the opportunity arises and yes it will most likely arise at some point in their short lives.
Honestly, I think it's naive to think it won't.
And when I said that you can't supervise ever feeding I meant when you are not there....ie on vacation or when feeding time is interrupted by some kind of emergency or whatever. That type of situation.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Brian Blanchette ]
#255354 - 10/23/2009 06:35 PM |
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heh we posted at almost the same time.
Please understand that my pack is always supervised at feeding time. The only point I'm trying to make is that if they don't eat together they will be more likely to fight for food when the opportunity arises and yes it will most likely arise at some point in their short lives.
Honestly, I think it's naive to think it won't. ....
But policing them in the kitchen isn't really going to change the dynamics for some future time when/if no one is there to do so.
I don't really see that the situation would be somehow better if the dogs had always been policed in one room or separated into different rooms in the past.
Failure of imagination, maybe.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
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#255356 - 10/23/2009 06:37 PM |
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I guess it just depends on your point of view. Personally I like to know that all my dogs are getting fed the adequate amount they need because it's not survival of the fittest around here and I don't want my dogs pitted against each other feeding. Then again some places like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QyVtU2sQk don't care as much about that issue.
So I guess it can be done. It doesn't particularly matter the number, just what your standards are.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Brian Blanchette ]
#255357 - 10/23/2009 06:38 PM |
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Brian,
I am a bit confused.
So are your dogs allowed to pick at each others' food? Like the chicken did to Logan?
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Melissa Hau ]
#255359 - 10/23/2009 06:41 PM |
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Brian,
I am a bit confused.
So are your dogs allowed to pick at each others' food? Like the chicken did to Logan?
Brian said: I always supervise but my dogs have always eaten together, each has his own food bowl an I make sure they keep to their own.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
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#255360 - 10/23/2009 06:43 PM |
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I guess it just depends on your point of view. Personally I like to know that all my dogs are getting fed the adequate amount they need because it's not survival of the fittest around here and I don't want my dogs pitted against each other feeding. Then again some places like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5QyVtU2sQk don't care as much about that issue.
So I guess it can be done. It doesn't particularly matter the number, just what your standards are.
I think it has turned out that the only real bone of contention (ha) is whether the dogs are policed in one room or separated into different rooms, not whether they are allowed to threaten each other's food.
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Re: My Doberman, Logan sharing breakfast with chic
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#255367 - 10/23/2009 06:57 PM |
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I　guess I just assumed that because the chicken were allowed to bother Logan at meal time, that was what Brian did at home, LOL.
I don't really think it matters whether you feed in one room or 4 different rooms, as long as the dogs are eating in peace.
When we go on vacation, we board the dogs at our vet, the dogs are separated into 4 kennels and each is fed in its own kennel.
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