 Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
[Re: Bev Thibault ]
#262653 - 01/18/2010 06:51 PM |
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He's not laying down in it is he? I thought just peeing in the straw. He would probably only break out if there was some contact (hence "contact dermatitis"). I thought you mentioned scratching in a post even before the straw was suggested.
My last dog used to scratch and carry on all winter. It is so dry here during the winter months. Her nose would even dry out and get cracks, it was horrible. Is it the same there? I'll bet the fish oil would help. Get that skin in good shape.
I think Jennifer is right about witch hazel or something else to apply to the skin to soothe it. There are some topical oils for dog coats.
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
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#262655 - 01/18/2010 07:10 PM |
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I'll bet the fish oil would help. Get that skin in good shape.
Huge ditto, regardless of the itch cause. Long-chain 3s are anti-inflammation agents: They trigger the production of hormones that suppress inflammation (and 6s trigger the production of the hormones that support inflammation; inflammation is a necessary healing response, but a diet heavily skewed towards 6s is a diet that supports inflammation running amok).
Contact dermatitis is relatively rare in dogs, but breathing in the chaff could certainly be a problem for an allergic dog. Carrying it inside on his paws would mean he was exposed to it 24/7.
So even though he is very young for atopy, which tends to appear after age 1 (although it's getting worse, with lots of dogs now showing symptoms as early as 6 months), that would be something to try eliminating and see what happens.
Could kitty litter be substituted at that outdoor potty-spot? Or I betcha someone else has much better ideas. Straw was a great idea, but there's a chance that it's causing a problem (unless the itching was pre-straw).
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
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#262657 - 01/18/2010 07:57 PM |
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I noticed periodic itching & a pronounced bald spot on his hind quarters during the two visits we made prior to his coming home with us on the 8th. By that date, he had already been on amoxillan for 7 (perhaps 14) days.
At his first-shot vet visit, the vet prescribed Clavamox, which he's been taking every 12 hours for the past 10 days. I did not notice the constant itching (i.e., every minute or so) until I had the opportunity to observe him.
I'm monitoring the frequency & intensity of itching until tomorrow morning - when I connect with my vet. She's mentioned reluctantly a short course of steroids, but given the previous posts I'm uneasy. However, I don't want the little to suffer much longer.
He's not having fun nor developing trust in his new pack leaders.
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
[Re: Bev Thibault ]
#262658 - 01/18/2010 08:00 PM |
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Did I miss a post that answered my question regarding the format these supplements should be ingested? And whether there is a canine formulation, or do I go to same store I purchase my dietary supplements?
That info would be really appreciated.
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
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#262659 - 01/18/2010 08:02 PM |
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Was he vaccinated while this was going on?! He had bald spots and this vet gave him shots?
Malpractice, as far as I'm concerned, if so.
Please tell me I misunderstood and he was vaccinated before anyone knew he had any issues at all. Please.
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
[Re: Bev Thibault ]
#262660 - 01/18/2010 08:06 PM |
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How bad is the itching? Does it interrupt sleep? Is he breaking skin? How do the insides of his ears look? Clear and pale or red and inflamed (perhaps with gunky debris)?
I have used Pred to break a bad cycle or even as a way to get a very allergic dog through her worst season (about three weeks in the fall), at the lowest possible dose that still worked.
Unless the itching is seriously affecting quality of life (see 1st paragraph), I'd want to lead up to that. That is, I would want to trial the best-history-with-dogs antihistamines (hydroxyzine and chlorpheniramine), the fish oil, definitely, eliminating the straw, checking the dog for evidence of even one flea ....
I would also be reluctant to combine steroids with the antibiotic he is still taking. So many strong meds for such a young pup.
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
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#262661 - 01/18/2010 08:08 PM |
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You can use human or dog supplements but they can get expensive, espeically if you are using all gel caps, Grizzly salmon oil is a reliable well made source of Omega 3 rich fish oil it is made for dogs and you can buy it on leerburg I believe.
I use Target brand Vitamin E capsules because they are a good price.
Yogurt or Kefir can be purchased from any grocery store or health food store. I personally prefer Kefir if you can find it because it has more forms of bacterial cultures in it, which helps with a wider re-population of the gut flora.
You just want to use plain no sugar added yogurt or kefir, my dogs all LOVE it too.
If you don't want to add those any probiotic supplement is fine, the ones in the refrigerated section seem like they might be superior to me, but that is just me. 
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
[Re: Bev Thibault ]
#262662 - 01/18/2010 08:08 PM |
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Did I miss a post that answered my question regarding the format these supplements should be ingested? And whether there is a canine formulation, or do I go to same store I purchase my dietary supplements?
That info would be really appreciated.
I need his weight.
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
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#262663 - 01/18/2010 08:11 PM |
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Was he vaccinated while this was going on?! He had bald spots and this vet gave him shots?
Malpractice, as far as I'm concerned, if so.
Please tell me I misunderstood and he was vaccinated before anyone knew he had any issues at all. Please.
Please tell us this. I assumed that when he went for his puppy shot and the vet saw this problem and knew about the meds, the shot was postponed.
I agree with Jenni. I am hoping against hope that my assumption was valid and that the vet did not vaccinate a pup who had this stuff going on.
e.t.a.
This is no matter of opinion. The actual manufacturer's package insert on these vaccines are clear and direct: They are given only to healthy animals. If something is going on, even far lower level than this, the vaccination is postponed.
Edited by Connie Sutherland (01/18/2010 08:38 PM)
Edit reason: eta
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Re: how-2 ID allergy in 9wk pup
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#262665 - 01/18/2010 08:59 PM |
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Buckley, weighing 3 kg, was given his shot on 8 Jan., which co-coincided with the day after the final dose of Buckley's prescription for Amoxillan, and the first day of his prescription for Clavamox.
At that time, however, the skin irritation & a singular bald spot was attributed to nipping of his litter mates, which was repeatedly witnessed by the foster family.
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