I read about the corrections but nothing about training the wanted behavior.
She knows what is expected. However she does not know how to come into the house at night without being a freak and forgetting all of her training ..
Right. She doesn't have that down. ;\)
How have you taught that? (Not how have you corrected the unwanted behavior -- how have you taught the wanted behavior?)
Thanks.
Please stay away from breed generalizations.......It is 99 % of the time non related.
If you can get to where you think of her as a dog first, and not a bully, you will do both of you a favor.
Willie
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Big agreement here.
And back to training what's wanted:
... she is being brought in from outside at night. I have to walk out to the gate which is chainlink 6ft high. I put her on a sit (she does this perfect) the minute I go to open the gate she gets up bust thru the gate and proceeds to jump shoving off of me and will come back and shove off of my back so hard that at times it will bruise and scratch me.
If I read what's written and don't read anything else into it, I would say that the "sit" command needs some duration and proofing work.
... she is being brought in from outside at night. I have to walk out to the gate which is chainlink 6ft high. I put her on a sit (she does this perfect) the minute I go to open the gate she gets up bust thru the gate and proceeds to jump shoving off of me and will come back and shove off of my back so hard that at times it will bruise and scratch me.
If I read what's written and don't read anything else into it, I would say that the "sit" command needs some duration and proofing work.
I apologize for not being able to put what I need to say in writing very well..
I agree her sit command in this situation could use some duration on it and that may just fix the problem.
Her sit with duration is working good outside of the fenced area when training outside. I have also added distractions and she does fine (we train in the horse pasture)..she understands her sit and stay command. I will try putting a longer duration on it at the gate..as well as enforcing her stay..
Great feed back Connie thank you for getting my wheels turning..
I read about the corrections but nothing about training the wanted behavior.
She knows what is expected. However she does not know how to come into the house at night without being a freak and forgetting all of her training ..
Right. She doesn't have that down. ;\)
How have you taught that? (Not how have you corrected the unwanted behavior -- how have you taught the wanted behavior?)
Thanks.
Please stay away from breed generalizations.......It is 99 % of the time non related.
If you can get to where you think of her as a dog first, and not a bully, you will do both of you a favor.
Willie
Willie...how nice of U to speak up...I did answer Connies questions..
Thank You for your concern..I do think of her as a DOG she reminds me everytime I wipe slobber off my leg..
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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I think you are being gently and medium-gently reminded from all sides by a board representing just about every breed there is that breed generalizations are counter-productive in more than one way.
When we're talking about trainability, I've learned over the years (many years ) that breed differences take a back seat to individual differences. It gets us off on the wrong foot to ascribe learning characteristics to a dog based on breed -- that is, it can set us up for limited success.
I am familiar with Marker Training as I know it is(correct me if I am wrong)..the target is to get the dog to do a certain task which can be sit, down, stay etc. The marker is a word such as "YES" or the use of a clicker. The reward can be food, play or praise. I have not gotten into alot of the "marker training"..I have had good luck in the past with just command and reward..I may need to work this female a different way..since I do not know how her young pup stages were imprinted.
you have to admit that dennis has some, ummmm. "unique" approaches to training dogs, lol!
i wonder if you start with simply approaching the gate to just outside the zone she starts to get crazy (if there is one), mark/reward for calmness. or, perhaps approach the gate, put your hand on it as if you're going to open it, then just wait/walk away until she settles. could take a lot of time...
just thoughts off the top of my puny brain. dennis' approach may be much more effective.
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