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today is his 4th day on flagyl and lomotil (imodium)

What's flagyl (antibiotic) for?

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today is his 4th day on flagyl and lomotil (imodium)

What's flagyl (antibiotic) for?

giardia usually. It's just a guess but I am thinking they didn't test for it but an assumption was made to treat for it.

Sorry, Melissa, I meant to ask Michel that. What are they giving the pup flagyl for this time? Hasn't he just finished a whole set of antibiotics/dewormers etc.? Does he keep getting reinfected?

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Maybe I misread his post but I thought the pup only had liquid in the initial flare-up and was back to mush?

"Tough digestive love might be fine for soft serve digestive issues but imo brown liquid needs intervention."


I guess I misunderstood too. I thought it was no longer brown liquid.

I have no personal experience with white potato, but have never recommended it because of having learned that 2/3 (or more, depending on type) of its fiber is in the skin. I see enough anecdotal evidence here about it to revisit the subject.

Tracy said:
"Boiled potatoes are a good source of calories and some nutrients, but not a great source of fiber without the skins." This is what I learned too.... that the skin contains most of the fiber and that the protein is almost all in a very thin layer just under the skin. (Not that protein is the issue here.)

Good point though that if something is working, might as well continue it. My assumption was that it was the anti-diarrheal med (lomotil), but you're right ... you know what they say about assuming.

Ohhh!! I know this one! Yes, the fiber is mostly just in the skin. I can say this with certainty because my husband is a type 1 diabetic and the amount of insulin he takes to cover eating potatoes varies drastically depending on whether he eats it with the skin on or not (because fiber cancels out some carbs... and potatoes are pretty much just giant starchy carbohydrates)

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is my only solid scientific contribution to this thread! Lol!

Wow guys! Thanks for all the replies!
Ana, flagyl s supposed to protect the stomach from lomotil. The use the combo here all the time apparently (killing the giardia s a secondary goal here. Vet s like dont worry cause it s not a stroing antoi-b and apparently u could give it for weeks on end. (That still didnt calm me down but i guess he s the vet not me...)
We re on day 5 today. He s finally getting better. Should i continue flagyl/lomo? Vet s said 3 days and wanted me to switch to scourban if things dont work. (I really would rather either stop or continue one more day. But no scourban!

Update: stool's a bit less mushy today. (Not sundae like, logs starting to show)

Dunno if it s the potatoes as well (he s lovin' em btw) but it s staring to work.
We have no orange squash here (didnt even know they exist!). Would adding green squash work?
What about carrots? I know they re high on sugar but full of fiber.

Ill try adding the skin to the potatoes today

Side questions: if potatoes are high in calories and he s lovin' em, is there a way i could keep them in the diet to up his weight a bit? As i ve mentioned before, he s pretty skinny (all ribcage can be felt and has a very apparent delimitation)

can i use probiotics with raw all the time? or would it affect him to produce them alone? And maybe have a side effect to continuous use?

Thanks again for the replies! U guys rock!

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flagyl s supposed to protect the stomach from lomotil. The use the combo here all the time apparently (killing the giardia s a secondary goal here. Vet s like dont worry cause it s not a stroing antoi-b and apparently u could give it for weeks on end. (That still didnt calm me down but i guess he s the vet not me...)
We re on day 5 today.

This makes sense. Make sure Karly drinks enough water.

You mentioned Salmon oil, E, C + probiotics. One of my dogs would have the runs just from this combo (in the same meal). She leaves the room as soon as she hears "yogurt" Keep your journal and notice interactions between foods. She also gets the runs from ground beef but not from big lean cuts. Try those.

I'd use chickpeas over carrots. You also must have a selection of gourds in Lebanon that are closer to pumpkin than potatoes.

I wouldn't use potatoes for any meaningful weight gain - starch, not protein.

I also wouldn't put too much emphasis on any starch as a long term diet staple. To increase calories increase the quantity of food ( gradually). If and when this dog better deals with fat in the diet then increasing fat will also up the calorie count.

Small amounts of more nutrient dense veg are what I do-- leafy dark greens, berries, broccoli, squash--small amounts, and not every meal. I freeze veggies as my way of "processing" them.

No gourds whatsoever. What about chickpeas? Or beetroots?

I hate to sound like a broken record but I would caution against adding anything at all to his diet anytime soon. Not with a considerable history of tempermental gut. Just adding an additional small meal to his day will help. Healthy digestion will put weight on the pup faster than you realize. With diarrhea most of his young life, just letting his body take its time absorbing nutrients properly will put weight on quickly. Just my two cents.