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[Re: PATRICK DAVILA ]
#275938 - 05/10/2010 05:54 PM |
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Patrick, if I may ask, what country do you live in?
Also, how does your boxer handle the heat - does it make for a good all around dog for you?
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#275944 - 05/10/2010 06:25 PM |
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Patrick, if I may ask, what country do you live in?
Also, how does your boxer handle the heat - does it make for a good all around dog for you?
I'm from Bolivia. I was raised and educated here in Maryland, USA. More then 80% are indigenous and won't even speak spanish.
The weather is humid here (Maryland). I prefer dry heat, as I'm sure my boxer does as well. It sucks to be standing in a shaded area and still sweat more then a fish.
For now, my boxer doesn't seem to care much as long as he's outside with me. I care. I prefer dry heat.
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Re: Chasing Deer
[Re: PATRICK DAVILA ]
#276034 - 05/11/2010 09:48 AM |
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I don't think any dog can come close to catching a deer. Boxer doesn't even come close, and my last dog, a boarder collie mix, never got close either. Collie mix was fast!!
I know a lady whos rhodesian ridgeback took a roe deer down on a walk in the woods. The owner said it was unbelievable how her sweet tempered soft dog caught up with the deer. Ofcourse they met accidentally and probably the deer didn´t have much head start.
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#276040 - 05/11/2010 10:39 AM |
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I don't think any dog can come close to catching a deer. Boxer doesn't even come close, and my last dog, a boarder collie mix, never got close either. Collie mix was fast!!
I know a lady whos rhodesian ridgeback took a roe deer down on a walk in the woods. The owner said it was unbelievable how her sweet tempered soft dog caught up with the deer. Ofcourse they met accidentally and probably the deer didn´t have much head start.
Well, Oscar would try his heart out! He might actually be fast enough in a flat race, but rough woods terrain is always an advantage for a bounding deer. And I wouldn't be so quick to say that dogs just can't catch deer - it's not unheard of in the northeast for loose packs of dogs (maybe only 2-4) to run deer to the point of exhaustion, at which point they can easy take it down. I think these situations favor dogs with little to no training or desire to stick close to home, because the chases are long... but it happens. And has been pointed out, dogs caught doing this are promptly shot.
~Natalya
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#276042 - 05/11/2010 11:02 AM |
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I wouldn't be so quick to say that dogs just can't catch deer - it's not unheard of in the northeast for loose packs of dogs (maybe only 2-4) to run deer to the point of exhaustion, at which point they can easy take it down.
Yep - those dogs are hunting like their ancestors - the wolf. They can become quite proficient.
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#276047 - 05/11/2010 11:13 AM |
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This is why the dachshund and small terriers are the only breeds that can used hunting roe deer here- the big ones drive them too fast too far until the animal just can´t take anymore.
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#276170 - 05/11/2010 11:18 PM |
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Really? In three to four steps, a deer is already out accelerating my BOxer. Boxers are not slow.
Other then hounds or breeds that can track down a deer until it's tired, I don't see how it's possible for any dog to catch up w/ a deer.
My collie mix was FAST! My neighbor had a Irish Settler, and he was fast too. Neither would come close though. It's as if the deer had twice the speed and acceleration as the dogs.
I'm sure a Greyhound can probably beat a deer. But I know they don't have what it takes to bring one down alone.
I don't think any dog can come close to catching a deer. Boxer doesn't even come close, and my last dog, a boarder collie mix, never got close either. Collie mix was fast!!
I know a lady whos rhodesian ridgeback took a roe deer down on a walk in the woods. The owner said it was unbelievable how her sweet tempered soft dog caught up with the deer. Ofcourse they met accidentally and probably the deer didn´t have much head start. |
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#276173 - 05/11/2010 11:46 PM |
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Its less speed, and more the fact that deer have sensitive nervous systems. As long as the deer can still hear/smell the dog, it'll keep running, until it's heart gives out.
There was a time when even we had the ability to run a deer to death.
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#276196 - 05/12/2010 08:57 AM |
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Other then hounds or breeds that can track down a deer until it's tired, I don't see how it's possible for any dog to catch up w/ a deer.
I'm sure a Greyhound can probably beat a deer. But I know they don't have what it takes to bring one down alone.
Greyhounds actually are hounds, they're sighthounds (as are Ridgebacks).  Sighthounds include afghans, sloughis, azawakhs and salukis - all of which can reach speeds up to 40mph (most fleet deer and antelope average 35-50mph). These types are all some of the oldest of the domesticated breeds and have been used for centuries to hunt all manner of very fast prey, over relatively flat ground - salukis are also known as "gazelle hounds", after their quarry.
There are a handful of rather shaky, handheld vids of sighthounds coursing antelope (faster than your average white tail) on youtube - the chases are quite long (and excruciating for the antelope, no doubt), but you can see that - especially with multiple dogs - it really isn't a matter of "if", just "when" they'll down their exhausted prey. They're impressive dogs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HvIvNewGXw&feature=related
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#276236 - 05/12/2010 01:01 PM |
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The roe deer does aren´t all that big (ca. 35 kg). At least around here. And it doesn´t take much to get one down- a bite in the throat and a knock by a big dog is enough to get one on the side and shock sets in fast.
We recenty hit one with our car- not much of a hit really as we saw it and were able to brake, the plastic bumper was ok, the deer was fine but in shock so completely unable to stand up. My S.O. could have just killed it on the spot with a knife but since there were no broken bones he just pushed-pulled it away from the road and the deer just looked at him and behaved like it was completely used to being handled by people and was just resting in the middle of the road.
The deer my friends dog hit did live for a while after but died later but can´t remember was it because if injury the dog caused or shock.
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