 Re: Bruises and Soreness? Ice, Heat, Other?
[Re: Debbie Martin ]
#276062 - 05/11/2010 01:53 PM |
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I keep the Herbsmith Acute Trauma formula on hand for un-expected inuries. (I quick looked on their site and didn't see it, so not sure if it was renamed or ?, but see Leerburg still carries it). In addition to the cold/heat applications. Many believe that keeping the initial inflammation and/or pain controlled will allow improved healing.
Pain is so individual, I just try to gauge the degree on their mood, range of motion, appetite....and the extent of the known injury. Some of mine are the no fuss type and others either really benefit or like the attention and sometimes I just feel like I need to do something.
I'm glad to hear that you are both ok, it could have gone so wrong. Be SAFE.
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Re: Bruises and Soreness? Ice, Heat, Other?
[Re: Scott Garrett ]
#276064 - 05/11/2010 02:08 PM |
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Glad I could give that to you. 
Lol, your giving yourself too much credit. Thats as surprising as how clumsy you are, being a ninja and all.
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#276065 - 05/11/2010 02:23 PM |
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That is... borderline abusive.
"Because I choose not to treat my OWN pain, I'll remove pain relief from my dog and allow him to suffer through pain he neither understands, nor benefits from."
You're free to make whatever choices you want about your own pain relief. Its cruel to deny it to an animal, who doesn't have the option of making his own choices.
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#276066 - 05/11/2010 02:24 PM |
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Glad I could give that to you.
Lol, your giving yourself too much credit. Thats as surprising as how clumsy you are, being a ninja and all.
What did you expect me to reply to your smack talk with? 
My martial arts instructors don't consider me clumsy. But, they only have the benefit of seeing me in real life. They ain't got ish on you folks from the internet!  My broken bones came from being an adventurous kid. The broken ankle was from a skateboarding accident.
When are you people going to drop the internet arrogance of thinking you know me in real life?
That is... borderline abusive.
"Because I choose not to treat my OWN pain, I'll remove pain relief from my dog and allow him to suffer through pain he neither understands, nor benefits from."
You're free to make whatever choices you want about your own pain relief. Its cruel to deny it to an animal, who doesn't have the option of making his own choices.
That's your opinion. My vet' doesn't happen to share it with you.
I WILL NOT tolerate anyone saying I abuse my dog.
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Re: Bruises and Soreness? Ice, Heat, Other?
[Re: Scott Garrett ]
#276067 - 05/11/2010 02:30 PM |
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Abuse is defined, among other things, as causing an animal to endure needless suffering.
What would YOU define forcing an animal to experience pain, rather than treating it, as?
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#276068 - 05/11/2010 02:39 PM |
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Abuse is defined, among other things, as causing an animal to endure needless suffering.
What would YOU define forcing an animal to experience pain, rather than treating it, as?
I'd call that being an animal.
I follow my vet's advice. I've never been told to give my dogs pain meds or ice/heat packs, even when Rasta cut one of his pads in half thanks to an a-hole that threw a soda can my yard while I wasn't home. When my dogs are sore/injured/whatever I do exactly what my vet' has told me, leave him alone, let him rest, keep his activity level as low as possible. In fact, I've had several different vet's all say that about various cats and dogs. Jump your high horse off a cliff.
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Re: Bruises and Soreness? Ice, Heat, Other?
[Re: Scott Garrett ]
#276069 - 05/11/2010 02:41 PM |
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When are you people going to drop the internet arrogance of thinking you know me in real life?
Probably when you drop the internet arrogance yourself.
Seriously, how do you think you're coming off on here?
I have to agree with Aaron, do what you want with your own pain.
Fine...but don't throw that way of life on your dog!
So if your guy had an injury and the vet said he didn't require any medication, but giving him some aspirin would help to make him more comfortable, you'ld say "nah, im sure i know how much pain he's in, he can work through it"
Wouldn't you rather help him a bit, i mean lets be honest, there's no way in hell you can know exactly how much pain he's in, unless you have some sort of Dr. Dolittle thing goin' on.
But man, it would be nice if we could ask!
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Re: Bruises and Soreness? Ice, Heat, Other?
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#276071 - 05/11/2010 02:43 PM |
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I follow my vet's advice. I've never been told to give my dogs pain meds or ice/heat packs, even when Rasta cut one of his pads in half thanks to an a-hole that threw a soda can my yard while I wasn't home. When my dogs are sore/injured/whatever I do exactly what my vet' has told me, leave him alone, let him rest, keep his activity level as low as possible. In fact, I've had several different vet's all say that about various cats and dogs.
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Which is why I prefaced my statement with borderline, rather than out and out abuse, and further made clear that I was referring to your statements, rather than your actions.
Your statement was *not* that you follow your Vet's advice, but rather that because you personally eschew pain relief, your animals don't need any either.
At no point, prior to this most recent post, did you indicate that your choice to not administer pain relief to your dogs was driven by a professional's advice. You stated more than once that it was driven by your own personal opinions regarding pain.
It was those statements which I was addressing, which I made clear by my summarizing statement in my first post.
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Re: Bruises and Soreness? Ice, Heat, Other?
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#276072 - 05/11/2010 02:45 PM |
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The thread is about a dog's injuries.
There are still vets around who actually don't "believe in" pain management for dogs. I happen to disagree strongly and would never use that vet.
This thread started with the O.P. saying that the vet advised that the dog could "ride it out." We don't know whether this was an assessment of the injuries or a general POV. But that was part of the O.P.
What the humans on the thread feel about treating their own pain is completely off-topic.
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Re: Bruises and Soreness? Ice, Heat, Other?
[Re: Meredith Hamilton ]
#276074 - 05/11/2010 02:51 PM |
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ok, well to the op...
Your last post seemed to be saying that he was on the mend and
putting more weight on that shoulder.
I don't see a problem with putting some ice on that shoulder still.
But rest is absolutely the key.
And trust me, as the days go by, that's going to be harder and harder to explain to your guy...lol...because the better he feels, the more he's going to want to over-do it.
slow and steady will win this race.
How is he otherwise? Any changes personality wise?
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