 Re: Funky prong collar?
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#296556 - 09/15/2010 10:20 PM |
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I really like the look of that collar and as I do still use prong collars when I walk both dogs together, it might be nice to have something that looks a little less like a torture device.
I am so fed up of explaining to strangers that the prong collars are a great tool when used properly, for some reason everyone I have met recently (even non dog owners) feel they know more about these collars than I do.....oops sorry, I just had a minor vent moment!
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Re: Funky prong collar?
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#296569 - 09/15/2010 11:01 PM |
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I like the LoloLimited ones. They are cute, and still look like they may function semi-normally. (I think, but don't know- that they wouldn't give as strong of a correction as a classic prong?)
I just ordered my guy a prong. (normal HS Stainless) Got the black nylon cover for it as well. May as well avoid the evil looks as much as possible. Heck, I used to judge people who used prongs. Turns out I just had a bunch of super easy (albeit large), low prey drive (Newfies) dogs growing up. No need for a prong on those things! 
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Re: Funky prong collar?
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#296603 - 09/16/2010 09:42 AM |
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Re: Funky prong collar?
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#296604 - 09/16/2010 10:17 AM |
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IME, the vast majority of folks who judge the prong are people who haven't had any experience with a large, high-drive dog and have never needed one.
I agree Kristel.
I was one of those people, several years ago. Working in the world of rescue, we saw a lot. Mainly abusive use of prongs, chokes, and e collars. (Including dogs with horrible sores from the contacts of a e collar, or invisible fence collar. Dogs that were tied out on a prong.  Stuff like that. ) I was smart enough to keep my mouth shut, and let my loud mouth boss tell them off. I've turned around, and I can now see what an amazing tool both the prong, and e collar can be! In mature hands, used with compassion, they can't be replaced!
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Re: Funky prong collar?
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#296617 - 09/16/2010 12:07 PM |
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I've seen some really nasty prong-related injuries too. Most of them from el-cheepo prong collars in abusive hands. Ditto the injuries from contact-points, although most of them from underground fence users who never take the collars off. I can completely understand the attitudes of folks who have only seen that side of the issue. These are tools that can definitely be abused.
I have the stainless prong and LOVE it. Used properly and judiciously it can be a wonderful "hearing aid"  I've seen more and more Dobermans working in the "neck tech" collar though, and have to admit I'm a bit intrigued. They are so darned expensive though, that I can't quite justify buying one just to try it out when I already have effective tools.
Maybe someday when I sell a book and I'm rolling in dough, eh?
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Re: Funky prong collar?
[Re: Kristel Smart ]
#296619 - 09/16/2010 12:38 PM |
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never take the collars off.
That is how I came to own my 1st rottie. Puppy collar left on and they brought to ER vet as a nasty sore developed and skin began to grow around the collar. He was about 5 mos when this happened, and then they just never picked him up. ER vet doesn't place and that particular county won't accept rotts, pits and I was asked to 'foster'. Obviously I am terrible at fostering and he never left.
All the collars you guys are linking to are great, honestly never knew anything other than the standard pinch existed. The people at club already laugh at me for my dog wearing a pink flat collar but now I am thinking....
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Re: Funky prong collar?
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#296653 - 09/16/2010 04:50 PM |
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Embedded collars are scary.... The other thing that horrifies me is people who leave prongs and chokes on all the time. I do not thing they are an appropriate item for daily wear, or attaching tags too.
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Re: Funky prong collar?
[Re: Kristel Smart ]
#296694 - 09/16/2010 07:56 PM |
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I've seen more and more Dobermans working in the "neck tech" collar though, and have to admit I'm a bit intrigued. They are so darned expensive though, that I can't quite justify buying one just to try it out when I already have effective tools.
I'm also a bit interested in those, for similar reasons as I've posted above about the covers. I've never seen one in "real life", as there isn't even a store anywhere near me that sells regulars prongs, never mind anything cutting edge. But, from the photos, the prongs on the tech collars look very short and sharp. Almost like they maybe wouldn't work on a thick coated GSD, but might cut a Dobe... Is this at all the case?
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Re: Funky prong collar?
[Re: phaedra rieff ]
#296704 - 09/16/2010 09:01 PM |
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The prongs on the tech collars look very short and sharp. Almost like they maybe wouldn't work on a thick coated GSD, but might cut a Dobe... Is this at all the case?
I was wondering the same thing Phaedra. I don't think they'd cut (I don't thing Herm Sprenger would continue making them if they did), but they do indeed look uncomfortable! Maybe more-so then a regular prong, which has a pinching action. I see the tech collars kinda pinching, but more then that, just a good (poke!) squeeze. I dunno. They are interesting!!! When I have $50 to spare, and I can't find anything else useful to buy, maybe I'll pick one up.
Edited by Kelly Byrd (09/16/2010 09:02 PM)
Edit reason: Fix quotation. Oops.
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Re: Funky prong collar?
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#296739 - 09/17/2010 08:08 AM |
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I've held one but never used one. The points are shorter and they actually feel a little LESS 'pointy' (and not at all sharp) than a standard prong. They are also surprisingly light weight and kind of pretty in a sleek and shiny way.
It is my understanding that they deliver about 10% or so less of a correction than the regular prong (on a Dobe).
According to the literature they are supposed to be equally effective on long and short-coated dogs, but I haven't heard anything one way or the other personally.
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