Anne Jones wrote 10/02/2010 06:30 PM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Olivia Brown ] #298481 - 10/02/2010 06:30 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	Some people just should not be allowed to have kids. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Barbara Schuler wrote 10/02/2010 06:46 PM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Ana Kozlowsky ] #298483 - 10/02/2010 06:46 PM
Barbara Schuler Webboard User Reg: 01-15-2009 Posts: 5090 Loc: Lanexa Virginia Offline	Quote: ana kozlowsky IMO a "working dog in training-do not pet" vest or bandanna would work great with kids, especially those who cannot read and/or don't speak English. Obviously, this suggestion is only one part of the equation and not the "end all - be all" solution. Even some reading, English speaking idiots are going to think it applies to everyone BUT them and will still approach, but it will probably help discourage SOME people. Stepping between your dog and anyone approaching, firmly saying "do not touch" etc... are still going to need to be employed.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/02/2010 06:47 PM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Olivia Brown ] #298484 - 10/02/2010 06:47 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Olivia Brown Anne- Unfortunately the mother of the child sat and watched the whole thing. She didn't even try to call her daugther back until I made it very clear that she shouldn't pet my dog. The girl was very young too...probably no older than 5. Even my 3 year old knows to never approach a strange dog, but then again he's been raised that way. Apparently most kids around here aren't and will readily run up to Vader until I tell them to stop. This scares me for that child. And then I wouldn't even be able to give the parent a few words of wisdom, either, in a case with a language barrier. Double scary.
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Kelly Byrd wrote 10/02/2010 10:47 PM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #298501 - 10/02/2010 10:47 PM
Kelly Byrd Webboard User Reg: 07-28-2010 Posts: 2249 Loc: Tacoma, WA Offline	Stupid parents raise stupid kids. I had a close call the other day. At home depot, in the car, Koenig was in the passenger seat and kinda sitting on the edge of the door. His tail happened to be out the window. Some lady and her teenage son parked next to Koenig. Mom told her kid 'Go pull that does tail, see what happens'. (They didn't realize I was in the car) Kid came over. Thankfully Koenig is defensive of 'his' car, and turned around before he got tugged on, snarled and acted nasty. I quietly got out of the car, went to the other side, and kindly told the kid that if he didn't value his hand, he could pull my dogs tail if he liked. :P Mom and kid shuffled away whispering. I'm also considering getting a vest with 'In training' and 'Do not pet' badges sewn all over it. I'm tired of saying 'no, go away, we are busy!'
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Bob Scott wrote 10/02/2010 11:08 PM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Kelly Byrd ] #298503 - 10/02/2010 11:08 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	You don't worry about hurting feelings if they don't get what "No" means the first time. If people get upset when you tell them no, then hopefully, they will leave all that quicker. If they still don't get it I have no problem being rude. One lady with a mutt on a flexi let her dog walk up to one of my terriers and just stick it's nose up one of my terriers butt. Mutt nosed the wrong terrier! When she got upset I asked her how would she like it if I walked up to her and shoved my nose up her butt. She must have got it that time. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Olivia Brown wrote 10/03/2010 06:01 AM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Bob Scott ] #298506 - 10/03/2010 06:01 AM
Olivia Brown Webboard User Reg: 09-13-2010 Posts: 220 Loc: Georgia Offline	Bob, that's the other issue I'm having. The park we go to is very dog friendly which of course I love, but since there are so many other dogs (all on leashes), their owners are constantly coming up to us so the dogs can "play". I get tired of explaining that Vader isn't allowed to be around other dogs...he needs to learn to ignore them and focus on me. Most people understand, but I feel like all of our training sessions are interrupted by either people wanting to pet him or dogs wanting to play. Luckily he's a very focused pup and rarely gets distracted anymore, but it's exhausting for me. I'm hoping that having a vest or bandana for him to wear will at least cut down on the number of interruptions we have. I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem though. "Vader" my 8 month mal
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Olivia Brown wrote 10/03/2010 06:03 AM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Olivia Brown ] #298507 - 10/03/2010 06:03 AM
Olivia Brown Webboard User Reg: 09-13-2010 Posts: 220 Loc: Georgia Offline	Kelly, that is ridiculous...it just shows you how stupid some people can be. Good job by that mom too for teaching her kid how to get his arm bit off...geez.... "Vader" my 8 month mal
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Cathy Goessman wrote 10/03/2010 08:59 AM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Olivia Brown ] #298514 - 10/03/2010 08:59 AM
Cathy Goessman Webboard User Reg: 12-03-2007 Posts: 1231 Loc: Phoenix, AZ Offline	I had a heck of a time with kids when I had my shy lab. The one that took the cake was a kid who just reached out and tried to grab Einsteins ear while at a police canine trial. Luckily I felt Einstein lean into my leg and looked to see what was going on. Mom was nowhere in sight either. I mostly managed it by putting as much space in between me and common approaches as possible. The training area I used most often with him had a big enough field that I could see anyone coming way before they reached us.
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Kristel Smart wrote 10/03/2010 09:19 AM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Cathy Goessman ] #298516 - 10/03/2010 09:19 AM
Kristel Smart Webboard User Reg: 10-03-2006 Posts: 1548 Loc: Vermont Offline	I was at a big 'doggie' event with my dog a couple of weeks ago, and felt my dog lean into me. A little girl was RUNNING at him with her arms wide open, saying "doggie!" in a high-pitched voice. Her parents were standing nearby but paying no attention. Super dangerous in that situation IMHO (over 1000 dogs at this event). I didn't even think, I just stepped between my dog and the girl, looked at her with my 'stern' face, held my hand up and said "uh uh!" (essentially the same firm, verbal correction I give my dog) and it was like kid-repellent. She stopped in her tracks, turned around and ran the other way. No appreciable verbal exchange needed IME in general, the less wordy you get the better. I don't want to have a conversation about The "whys", I just want them to bugger off. If you do go with a 'working dog' patch, vests usually are more effective than bandannas, and for some reason the bright orange or red seem to be the most effective colors. Again, just my personal experience.
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Tracy Collins wrote 10/03/2010 09:51 AM Re: What do you tell strangers?? [Re: Kristel Smart ] #298519 - 10/03/2010 09:51 AM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	I just lie. For whatever reason, when I'm out walking my pack of four (all walking nicely at heel and minding their manners) the first question I get is "do they bite?" (which seems to be code for "I want to come get in the middle of your dogs and get them excited and then leave"). "Yes. They do bite." Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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