Mara Jessup wrote 04/05/2014 10:05 PM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390037 - 04/05/2014 10:05 PM
Mara Jessup Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2005 Posts: 2316 Loc: Offline	Pyrantel pomanate is the "plus" part in heartgard plus. Millions of dogs get it on a monthly basis and do just fine - the risk of side effects is super low. As far as chemical go, well, as much as I like to minimize their use there certainly is a place for them. For instance I'd MUCH rather use heartworm drugs than deal with the actual heartworm in my dogs. K-9 Knitter
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Brianah Maloney wrote 04/07/2014 09:47 AM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390048 - 04/07/2014 09:47 AM
Brianah Maloney Webboard User Reg: 10-22-2013 Posts: 399 Loc: Offline	So, the way to know for sure is the fecal testing? As bob suggests? MY dog has had some "strange" looking BMs. I tested a nasty looking movement ABOUT a year ago? Came back clean. Should i be having my girl checked more often? Theres no other signs of worms in general, that i could keep an eye on? My dog goes to the vet about monthly and they never recommend fecal tests. I bring them in on my own. Some people deworm regularly. My dog has NEVER been dewormed. Should i be? My vets dont let me know a thing about this subject. As connie says, i do to try to stay as natural as possible also. Because you can clearly see a difference in my poor dog. Can a dog get pinworms? Will they give them to me? Ohhhhhh.. Can a dog give a human anything like that?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/07/2014 09:47 AM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390052 - 04/07/2014 09:47 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I have two dogs who have never been dewormed, at least since I've had them. I do have a fecal done annually (would do it more often, if I had any suspicions). I don't deworm unless worms are present. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/pic/article.cfm?aid=168 http://www.petmd.com/dog/general-health/evr_dg_intestinal_worms_in_dogs http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Different-Dog-Worms
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Becky Shilling wrote 04/07/2014 03:29 PM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390061 - 04/07/2014 03:29 PM
Becky Shilling Webboard User Reg: 12-01-2005 Posts: 1009 Loc: OKC, Oklahoma Offline	Equine dewormer combo with ivermecton is about as lethal as you can get. The ivermecton dosage is about 100x more than the dog can handle. If you dose appropriately for the fenbendazole in dogs, you are OD'ing the dog on ivomec, guaranteed.
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Betty Landercasp wrote 04/09/2014 12:06 PM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390088 - 04/09/2014 12:06 PM
Betty Landercasp Webboard User Reg: 11-30-2009 Posts: 3724 Loc: minnesota Offline	Little children who play barefoot in the deep south in dirty lots with dog poo have been known the have something called "visceral larval migrans" which is hookworm larva burrowing thru the skin. Toxocara canis the roundworm has RARELY RARELY migrated into the eye. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN so don't worry about it. If you treat your dogs for heartworm you've probably got it all covered. http://s922.photobucket.com/albums/ad67/Grasvaly/
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Brianah Maloney wrote 04/22/2014 11:09 PM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Betty Landercasp ] #390344 - 04/22/2014 11:09 PM
Brianah Maloney Webboard User Reg: 10-22-2013 Posts: 399 Loc: Offline	Quote: Betty Landercasp Little children who play barefoot in the deep south in dirty lots with dog poo have been known the have something called "visceral larval migrans" which is hookworm larva burrowing thru the skin. Toxocara canis the roundworm has RARELY RARELY migrated into the eye. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN so don't worry about it. If you treat your dogs for heartworm you've probably got it all covered. nononononononoon! No nonon! There is no way i can be positive each dog that comes into my house is on HW protection at that exact moment... Sure the dogs i am around are tested negative for HW... but what about these other nasties?!! Maybe i should reconsider my career choices... Any careers out there completely safe from all viruses/worms/bugs? Betty..... Why did you have to tell me? In the eyes?!!! Edited by Brianah Maloney (04/22/2014 11:09 PM) Edit reason: ewww
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Brianah Maloney wrote 04/22/2014 11:08 PM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #390345 - 04/22/2014 11:08 PM
Brianah Maloney Webboard User Reg: 10-22-2013 Posts: 399 Loc: Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland I have two dogs who have never been dewormed, at least since I've had them. I do have a fecal done annually (would do it more often, if I had any suspicions). I don't deworm unless worms are present. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/pic/article.cfm?aid=168 http://www.petmd.com/dog/general-health/evr_dg_intestinal_worms_in_dogs http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Different-Dog-Worms Thanks connie! Weight off my shoulders hearing that from you!
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roger robinson wrote 04/23/2014 11:19 PM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390370 - 04/23/2014 11:19 PM
roger robinson Webboard User Reg: 03-16-2014 Posts: 26 Loc: oklahoma Offline	Thank you, I've learned alot here, yes I'm stubborn, sorry to all for that. Betty on Ivan my 5 month czech gsd, would u use ivermec in a low dose for heartworm preventitive, or something else? Btw thanks for educating me on d.e. he is now 52 lbs, what would be a safe ivermec dosage of the liquid? Again thanks everyone.
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roger robinson wrote 04/23/2014 11:19 PM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390371 - 04/23/2014 11:19 PM
roger robinson Webboard User Reg: 03-16-2014 Posts: 26 Loc: oklahoma Offline	Thank you, I've learned alot here, yes I'm stubborn, sorry to all for that. Betty on Ivan my 5 month czech gsd, would u use ivermec in a low dose for heartworm preventitive, or something else? Btw thanks for educating me on d.e. he is now 52 lbs, what would be a safe ivermec dosage of the liquid? Again thanks everyone.
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Duane Hull wrote 04/24/2014 09:00 AM Re: dewormer, what can I use? [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #390375 - 04/24/2014 09:00 AM
Duane Hull Webboard User Reg: 09-23-2011 Posts: 2692 Loc: Marrero, LA Offline	In south LA, we have a proliferation of pests, including heartworm-bearing mosquitoes and, of course, serious fleas. Because of these, prevention is a must. Under these rather extreme conditions, I have found that what works best for me is a topical flea treatment in combination with Heartgard plus. The dosages for Ivermectin are so minute and toxic that I prefer a formulated application over DIY. But that's just me. ETA: Mara is absolutely right. Been through the heartworm treatments, as have many of my friends, and it's nothing nice! $30-$40 for 6 months of prevention is much easier to stomach. Edited by Duane Hull (04/24/2014 09:00 AM) Edit reason: eta Sadie
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