Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
[Re: Niomi Smith ]
#313474 - 01/25/2011 06:57 PM |
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I've found the cold to be quite a motivator in the training. Normally when the dogs, who are in the initial stages of marker trg, do not comply, I give a NO, and escort the culprit outside (through the doggie door) and close the door until he's had a few minutes to think about it, knowing full well the other dog is inside getting ALL the markers and treats ... take away 15 degrees, add some windchill factor, and you would not believe the compliance once the dog comes back inside ... Now if only I could get them to stop eating poopcicles ...
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This is foolish. It makes no sense. You either need to step back and learn something about marker training or not post this foolishness on my web board. It makes ZERO SENSE - it's just plain stupid.
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313476 - 01/25/2011 07:01 PM |
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Why would you punish a dog whom, you've just stated yourself, has no idea what you're even asking?
How inventive, creative and willing to try new things would you be, if a wrong answer meant you might have to stand out in the cold and be taunted by the knowledge that the other dogs were getting your treats?
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313477 - 01/25/2011 07:06 PM |
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You've got to be poopcicling me!
That's not marker training!
If my dog isn't learning, I'm doing something wrong.
Randy
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
[Re: JJ White ]
#313480 - 01/25/2011 07:28 PM |
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I've found the cold to be quite a motivator in the training. Normally when the dogs, who are in the initial stages of marker trg, do not comply, I give a NO, and escort the culprit outside (through the doggie door) and close the door until he's had a few minutes to think about it, knowing full well the other dog is inside getting ALL the markers and treats ... take away 15 degrees, add some windchill factor, and you would not believe the compliance once the dog comes back inside ... Now if only I could get them to stop eating poopcicles ...
You HAVE to be kidding. You are kidding, right? You punish a dog with freezing temps and "some windchill factor" "in the initial stages of marker trg" .....
Among other objections, this has NOTHING to do with marker training. Nothing at all.
Please tell us that this is a joke. A crappy one, a not funny one, but a joke.
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313481 - 01/25/2011 07:55 PM |
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I want to ask the board members to let me know about stupid posts from this person. One more and he is gone.
Some people should not own dogs - I don't think this is funny.
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313485 - 01/25/2011 08:03 PM |
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Along the same lines as the OP, how hot is to hot? My dogs avoid the heat like the plague, but I've seen others walking their dogs, some long haired breeds at around 40C give or take a couple of degrees, is this stupid? or a mine just soft as they want to get inside to the air conditioner? How much are dogs able to take, we don't have a cold prob here just heat!
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313488 - 01/25/2011 08:09 PM |
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It depends on so many different factors.
How acclimatized to the weather are the dogs?
What breed of dogs? Do they have a healthy coat? Quality and type of coat affect a dog's cold AND heat tolerance.
Are the dogs adequately hydrated and well-fed? Are they overweight? Underweight?
What sort of activity are they engaging in?
How long?
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313529 - 01/26/2011 07:46 AM |
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You can always determine if your dog is too hot by taking his temperature after a walk. Normal temps for a dog are 99 to 102.5.
I wont attempt to tell you what they can function at - may want to ask a vet.
I have a free streaming video on our web site about playing outside with one of our females. It was 80 degrees - we were tossing balls. She got heat stroke. You can see it happen and see what we did for her because I filmed it.
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313562 - 01/26/2011 12:08 PM |
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Normal temps for a dog are 101 to 103.
I can't believe I'm about to say this in response to Ed's post....
but...
From a medical standpoint, 103 is pretty high. We can't vaccinate against rabies here in Washington if the dogs temp is over 103. (Not that I agree with the vaccine's period, but it's still a rule) Anything over 103 from every vet I've worked at would be considered high, unless the dog is in the middle of a hard workout/training session. At that point we'd begin looking for other causes of a high temperature. (aside from stress, which can raise the temp over 102 alone)
note: Ed "edited" his numbers.
Edited by Connie Sutherland (01/26/2011 02:29 PM)
Edit reason: "ed" .. "edit" .. get it? lol
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Re: How cold is too cold, 'm I over protective?
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#313567 - 01/26/2011 12:14 PM |
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I've found the cold to be quite a motivator in the training. Normally when the dogs, who are in the initial stages of marker trg, do not comply, I give a NO, and escort the culprit outside (through the doggie door) and close the door until he's had a few minutes to think about it, knowing full well the other dog is inside getting ALL the markers and treats ... take away 15 degrees, add some windchill factor, and you would not believe the compliance once the dog comes back inside ... Now if only I could get them to stop eating poopcicles ...
You HAVE to be kidding. You are kidding, right? You punish a dog with freezing temps and "some windchill factor" "in the initial stages of marker trg" .....
Among other objections, this has NOTHING to do with marker training. Nothing at all.
Please tell us that this is a joke. A crappy one, a not funny one, but a joke.
Seriously??? I can't believe someone would actually do this and then brag about it!!!
This is just ridiculous.
Please, someone take this man's dog for it's own protection
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