Quote: Aaron Myracle

LOL

Not cool. this person is genuinely worried about their dog.

Since dog is not spayed, possible to have a pyometra (infection in the uterus common in some unspayed dogs). I would think she would have a fever. They should have been able to do a insulin test right then to determine the levels. Did they do a urine test - like Connie asked?

I can see more expensive treatment if for diabetes due to having to keep the dog at clinic for several days to regulate insulin levels. But just fluid therapy should not cost that much, and some fluid therapy can be done at home either subQ or thru a catheter with a rubber stopper on it.

Will be curious to find out what's going on. Wonder if she's anemic. Kidney diets are usually high in protein.

Edited by Lynne Peck (01/27/2011 12:32 AM)
Edit reason: spelling

 Quote: lynne peck

 Quote: aaron myracle

LOL

Not cool. this person is genuinely worried about their dog.

Lynne, if you look again at Aaron's post, you'll see he was responding to me (at the top, it says "reply too ____"), and they obviously posted at the same time, putting Aaron's below.
Nobody doubts the concern for the dog - hence all the advice. If you knew Aaron a bit better, you would know that he ALWAYS puts the dog's welfare at top priority.
If you have a problem with my humor in this thread, quote me.






note: I almost deleted the post from Aaron because I knew exactly what it was, what it responded to, how innocent it was, and how unfortunate it would appear at a glance. Both Aaron and Phaedra ALWAYS put the dog's welfare at top priority.

Please, I am sure that we can drop that sub-thread as of now. Thank you.

Edited by Connie Sutherland (01/27/2011 01:37 AM)
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They are a lovely pack, Dragan. (Two are chubby -- a project for another later thread.) Lovely, though.

I know that you are doing your best to assure them all that the leadership and protection at the top of the pack are intact. There is no disruption, no anguish among their leadership.

It's late, but I woke up thinking of your wife and you and your dog. Tomorrow will give some answers. No matter what, you can deal with it.

Please keep us posted. We will be waiting and thinking of you all.

Dragan,

Could your wife have read an article on Star fruit? I know in medical practice that fruit is to be avoided in patients with renal dysfunction.

Lynne's suggestion of an infection in your dog's womb is probably what your vet was thinking when they gave the antibiotic injection. Funnily enough, they don't always have a fever with this. It can come on suddenly, look like kidney failure, and it's number one symptoms are depression and drinking tons of water.
Hoping for the best.
Let us know how she does.

The results came back - they only did the blood test, not the urine. She has high white blood cell count, which points to an infection. The doctor said (mail one this time) that the kidney seem to be functioning normally, which is a relief. He said that this is a very serious condition, and that she needs to be hospitalized. He also mentioned elevated sugar, but that it could be due to the infection, he said. He said a bunch of things I did not like also. Drina has not been given vaccines, as I don't believe in those. His plan is to give her every possible vaccine now when she is sick. They want 1000$ down to start the treatment, but the cost will be more, he says. What we are planning to do at this moment is go to another clinic and to urine test and possibly x-ray to learn more about her condition. I don't feel good about leaving her in the hospital, especially not with brutal treatment. I also did not like that the doctor was so sure that she needs surgery even though he never mentioned that urine test needs to be done. I wanted to do the test first and x-ray and then decide on hospitalization.

By the way, dogs are not overweight, it was just such an angle. They are in perfect shape (maybe need a little bit more walking, as I am always busy), I will post some more pictures.

I don't care how you vaccinate one way or the other, but DO NOT vaccinate a sick dog.

I hope Betty and Connie see this soon. I don't know if some info is getting left out between the vet and what you are posting, but something sounds weird.

 Quote: Dragan Miletic

What we are planning to do at this moment is go to another clinic and to urine test and possibly x-ray to learn more about her condition.

Just read back through your post and saw this.

GOOD!!! I really wanted to say get a second opinion, but bit my tongue because the whole situation sounded so weird that I was sure I was missing something. I didn't want to unintentionally make you delay treatment for your dog.

YES!!! Get a second opinion NOW!

"He said that this is a very serious condition, and that she needs to be hospitalized. "

What did I miss? What is the condition he means? Pyometra?

Of course, you are correct that you do not vaccinate sick dogs.
http://www.articlesbase.com/pets-articles/dog-vaccination-3748333.html
Scroll to "When NOT to Vaccinate"

I would get this in writing (no vax without written permission) signed by you and vet and a copy in your hands and in the chart, if you have any idea that this is a protocol where you are.

But again, what condition is he naming? So much of concern in what you say there ...... Are you going NOW to another vet? Regardless of what this vet says that sounds so strange, this sounds serious just from your descriptions. You need a second opinion, IMO, but NOW.

Sorry, I forgot to mention - they suspect that uterus problem, whatever is the typical problem of female dogs not spayed. But they don't know yet. The trouble is he does not want to just do x-rays, he wants to keep the dog in the hospital (I feel they want money more than anything) and vaccinate the life out of her, along with antibiotics.
I am thinking about making colloidal silver and give her that instead of water for a couple of days. It will not do any harm, any way. What else is good for an infection?