No. He wasn't a bad guy. He was simply a guy who walked out of a real estate office. He just did it suddenly.
The way my dog looks is enough of a detterent for most bad guys. Otherwise, her only job is to be my buddy, and to do the jobs that I think up for her. Protector is not one of those jobs.
I don't want her to decide on her own that its time to scare some one away. With the exception of barking at someone trying to get in my house in the middle of the night, I would much rather have her be neutral.
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No. He wasn't a bad guy. He was simply a guy who walked out of a real estate office. He just did it suddenly.
The way my dog looks is enough of a detterent for most bad guys. Otherwise, her only job is to be my buddy, and to do the jobs that I think up for her. Protector is not one of those jobs.
I don't want her to decide on her own that its time to scare some one away. With the exception of barking at someone trying to get in my house in the middle of the night, I would much rather have her be neutral.
"I don't want her to decide on her own that its time to scare some one away. " Period.
IMO, there are no exceptions like the one given without training for them. You are doing great for exactly what you want, which is a non-reactive companion animal.
Someone at the door to my house in the middle of the night should ideally result in exactly what my dogs do when anyone approaches our house, comes into our gate, etc. : the dogs bark until I come and look and tell them "It's OK."
No big argument or anything here -- just a reminder that we probably don't want to make a kind of "decision" rule that take the dog's desired response into a gray area that only we understand.
"Otherwise, her only job is to be my buddy, and to do the jobs that I think up for her. Protector is not one of those jobs" has no "except" after it, unless the exception is a trained, clear one.
So when I say that my dogs do not have the job of protecting me, but only the job of, say, an alert bark that ends when I say so, then there's nothing added that requires an assessment and decision from the dog.
No big deal, and nothing really to do with the thread .... just clarification that's important to me. JMO, though!
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We had a great walk tonight!
1 hour of seriously aerobic walking with marker training intervals sprinkled in.
I learned something about our "watch me". I probably wasn't keeping her hungry enough to have marker training be effective in a situation with real distractions. She's got food drive, but not tons of it. All but one "watch me" worked out on the first shot!
WONDERFUL!
I try to plan most marker sessions for before rather than after meals (except with a dog who is so food-driven that I need to feed him first so he doesn't get overexcited and hectic when the bait bag comes out). And outside, on the public sidewalk, say, in the world of smells and sights and excitement -- that's where the high-value rewards go. JMO!
A dog who has just complied with a newish command in the face of extreme distraction might just find himself with a piece of real bacon from the "jackpot" baggy.
What I meant about that "middle of the night" comment is that I would expect her to bark if someone climbed through the window. Like a dog. Not so much for personal protection or anything.
I know she would do it, most dogs probably would. She just gets to be the K9 looking one doing the barking.
You gotta remeber I live in Dirty Dot.
She's actually very cool to everyone who comes over my house. Its one problem that we don't have.
Its kind of funny, but about a month ago somebody knocked on my window in the middle of the night on a saturday. I freaked out! Tasha walked up to the window, sniffed around and wagged her tail.
It was my upstairs neighbor, a friend of mine, kind of drunk. He had locked himself out and climbed on to my porch because he saw a light on.
When I finished yelling at him I invited him in, and she was still cool as a cucumber.
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-- just a reminder that we probably don't want to make a kind of "decision" rule that take the dog's desired response into a gray area that only we understand.
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