Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Keep up the chicken and rice. You can increase the amount you feed by increasing the number of meals, not the amount at each meal. If you are feeding him 5x, increase it to 7 or 8 if you are home enough to do this. The goal is not to overload his system with a huge bomb of food which will send you right back to diarrhea.
I'm glad he's better. Others can help you to balance his diet later in the week. How's the prolapse?
Huge ditto. Soupy white rice, very overcooked. No larger meals yet. No other food yet. Please don't be tempted by slight improvement to revert to large or different meals. It takes many days (a little over a week, in even "usual" bad-diarrhea events) to get that inflamed gut on its way back to normal.
Boy, he's adorable.
The increase in pee could be from absorption of the steroid cream thru the mucosa of his prolapse.
It could also be that his colon is doing a better job of absorbing water (that is the large intestines job, to dehydrate the pooter -- it's all liquid at the beginning of the large intestine, and hopefully formed by the end). Anyway, perhaps more water is entering his body via his intestines instead of zooming out in the stool.
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That makes sense, Betty. And don't worry guys, I'm sticking to a strict TBSP meal. I also bought him a cotton rope toy, cut off the fringes at the end, and soaked it in the chicken water then froze it. It seems to be helping him subdue his food cravings, since he isn't whining and pacing as much.
I'd be a little careful about the rope toy - he might try to actually eat it, then you'd really have issues! I'd opt for freezing the broth in ice cubes and stuffing them in a kong instead.
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Yea, I'm worried about him eating his toys too, so I don't give him any stuffies or the rope toy unless I'm actually watching him. He gets safer rubber toys when I'm not around.
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I took him to a training club to socialize and talk to a trainer, and someone gave him treats before I could stop her. She seemed to have some kind of mental disability, so I just quietly removed my pup from the area. This morning he has liquid poo again. So frustrating.
Another thing I wanted to ask was if it was normal that he not poop as much on the chicken and rice diet. Yesterday he only pooped once, and the day before that twice.
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Quote: Betty Landercasp
Treat him for Giardia.
Deworm him, if he eats his poop you know he has worms.
Feed him boiled chicken and rice, a small quantity, 5 times a day.
DO NOT FEED HIM BONE MEAL.
The prolapse will likely self correct as he grows.
I'd be worried about a number of things, and I would NOT put this pup on a raw diet.
Betty and everyone here told me last summer told me to put my pup on this diet for a week + because he was having some symptoms that you were describing. Giardia only causes diarrhea when shedding the eggs in the system so they can be spread. Treat him for Giardia.
JMO - We also had him on boiled hamburger. Boil it! The fat floats to the top of kettle so its not to rich for his poor gut.
Also ask your vet when the pup has watery stools could that be from a parasite shedding from the lining of his colon. My vet says thats why it would be soft stools one day and a few days later it would be like slime with bits of fecal matter mixed in.
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Another thing I wanted to ask was if it was normal that he not poop as much on the chicken and rice diet. Yesterday he only pooped once, and the day before that twice.
The chicken and rice is digestible, meaning not much is waste, so not much exits.
Get back on that. We need a week of poop=log, then adjustments can be made.
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What do you mean 'get back' on it? He's been on it since Sunday.
He was tested for giardia and is clean. At this point the vet recommends not treating anyway to give his body time to heal. He really liked Betty's idea of chicken and rice and is fully supportive.
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