Deanna,

I think the problem is there are two different dogs in this thread. I too am talking mainly about the 2nd dog.

As far as the dog being "tired"....call me a hard ass or whatever but I really don't give a shit if the dog is tired. If I'm tired do I punch my wife in the face if she disturbs me? Tired or not...that would be the LAST time the dog did that in my presence....I promise. Now if the dog was in a peaceful sleep and the kid just pounced on the dog then fine....the dog was scared shitless and in its groggy state probably reacted like it was being attacked...I could see practicing some tolerance with the dog in that instance, but only in that instance.

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Good god people, I am glad Euthanasia isn't legal for humans.

Ummm there is this new thing out, it's called "Capitol Punishment" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

But in regards to the Orginal post, yes it's just a tired dog snapping, but again I will agree with Chuck, a level 10,000 correction is needed, I don't care how tired a dam dog is, it is never to snap at a child or anyone else for that matter.

I had a similar experence just yesterday with my boy, I had him tied out at the beach while I kicked it with my family, my little 5 year old cousion came up to me and sat next to my chair and I turned to chit chat with her and my dog lit up because he does not know this child and didn't like her talking to me, so I gave him a hefty pop and took him to the truck and in the crate he went for a couple of hours. Brought him back out and tied him out again and tried it again, quiet and calm as a mouse full of cheese. He learned a valuable lesson, that lesson being if there is no threat, I control who talks to me and not him, he has no say in the matter. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

The second dog in the thread, I stand by my orginal post on that one....no time for "Fix the dog" therapy.

I don't know... I wouldn't euthanize either. I have read all the posts that the second dog has been involved in since she found the board. It is 50% dog and 50% confused owner.

I recommended muzzling the dog in public when she first got the dog. She was later told by Barbara that was unnecessary. I don't know who she listened to, but considering she "cried" when she put the muzzle on him the first time I would venture to guess.

The dog needs to go to a trainer, with the owner. Books and tapes are great, but no one can see the dog through this computer screen to tell if it is a true case that isn't worthy of time. Cocker spaniels are NOTORIOUS snappers anyway thanks to Lady and the Tramp. Gotta love what publicity does for a breed.

Damn...I hate when three people post at the same time. I always end up three posts up!LOL

Lonny,

You were reading my mind on the tired dog thing.

Chuck,
Indeed we are on the same page. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

OK, the "tired dog" was in another thread. The first dog in THIS thread, I believe, has a rank issue. This person has a three dog pack. In a nutshell, the human needs to spend more one on one time with the bitch, establishing the rules.

Now that I've read more about this second dog, I believe that the trouble is probably more 25% dog and 75% human. I stand by my previously expressed opinions on this one. I think this dog is getting a lot of mixed messages.

Nobody has answered my question yet. Why do prong collars come with a warning on the tag saying not to use them on aggressive dogs?

Oops...you are right about the tired dog being on another thread...

Anyway...

About the prong collar thingy... I have never seen one on any prong I have bought. That is 3.

I would guess it is for the same reason that all coffee cups tell you it is hot. Somebody got sue happy.

I would think because some idiot tried a correction with a handler hard dog and got his ass bit off....sued the prong company and won.

heheh Deanna, now we are on the same page....I'm getting freaked!