20 mile hikes with a 3 1/2 mo old.....

Just because HE CAN DO IT....DOESN'T MEANT THAT HE SHOULD! Most very, very, high drive dogs will go until they DROP! That doesn't mean that they should be allowed to do that. It is not necessarily in their best interest. Most especially a puppy. JMHO

How much exercise is reasonable for a low drive and a high drive puppy? Does it differ much?

Samantha: Could it be the little guy can sense your frustration with it and since it is a new dog feel that frustration and be fearful, not understanding, just picking up on your vibes. I don't know, but I know my dogs can pick up on my frustration. ..especially Cody. He is very, very active and can be a barker once he gets started, I have gotten frustrated before and it is true, it sets it back, way back. Have you watched Michael Ellis videos? There is a good one re: training with food, and engaging your dog. If I had it to do all over again, and I did go back and start over, I would not put so much pressure on a little pup or a new dog, I would practice engagement.
You could be putting too much pressure on the little guy at such a young age. Did you know that walking a little guy that much can cause physical problems? So, please be careful. Maybe begin all over again? sharon

If he does get upset from my frustration, he's not showing it any other time. I've gotten upset with Clark right in front of the pup and he seemed completely oblivious (the dog, not the man, although sometimes I have to wonder). Not saying it's not happening, but if it is he's good at hiding it. We're still learning about each other, though.

I don't really have any expectations on him. Come when I call, sit when I say sit, stop barking at the neighbor, but all of that is done with lots of love, patience, and putting on a show for him to make me more interesting than whatever's got his attention. If he doesn't do it despite all of that, in the crate he goes for a few minutes to calm down and relax.

I haven't watched any of the on-demand videos or ordered any of the DVDs because 1) unless paying the fee for the on-demand videos lets me watch multiples instead of paying for every single one, I can't afford it, and I haven't figured out if it's a pay per video thing or not. 2) I can't afford the DVDs even though I would *love* some of them. The budget is tight right now.

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I don't really have any expectations on him. Come when I call, sit when I say sit, stop barking at the neighbor

Those are pretty high expectations for a pup this young-
especially a high drive pup. I've seen adults that are still working the kinks out of those behaviors at times. 'Jus sayin...
To withhold the reward because he didn't produce the correct behavior is a powerful tool which causes a LOT of frustration. Pup wants food, pup offers behavior, you don't like behavior offered, pup loses food, pup gets isolated, pup gets frustrated and lets you know it. Never ending cycle of bad to worse.
Keep in mind, jumping and barking his head off IS offering a behavior - just not the one that you want.