The one thing I recommend is doing the protection sport foundation first. I did find some conflict going the other direction with the stick. The herding training to respect the stock stick, view it as a guidance but also correction tool, etc caused some stick issues in Sch that we had to work through. But that was really the only conflict I found.
VERY interesting point Kadi! Thanks for bringing that up. Never crossed my mind, but it makes perfect sense now, once I think about it.
Now the down side to Schutzhund first.
Thunder absolutely would NOT allow our trainer Terrasita to put a stick or rake in front of him. He loves her to pieces now but in the beginning he would stop everything and with tail up, ears forward and very stiff legged he's just walk towards her. Sheep forgotten! There seemed to be more seriousness to it then the bite game of Schutzhund.
He's never been one of those over the top aggressive dogs. Actually quite social when properly introduce....and you have a stick or ball to throw , but he can still tap into a very serious side. He's what a correct GSD should be.
Even with me he would occasionally jut bite the rake. Never a challenge towards ME but he had no problem letting me know his feelings about a stick.
I used a form of Ivan B's drive methods for all his training and, using that, his commands carried over nicely to herding.
I did have to work on them heavily the day or two before herding but they worked.
I was thinking about that side as well Bob. I know a particular sable GSD that has been known to attack the stick... leaving no doubts what she thought of the situation. Hahaha. Silly girl. Once she got a piece that broke off and pranced around the arena carrying it like a sleeve. Hummm....
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Re: from schutzhund to herding?
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