I have kept my mouth shut on this sharpened prong thing up until now. Collars that are flat, choke, pronged, sharpened or electric are all tools for a dog trainer. Just like screwdrivers, hammers and wrenches are tools for a contractor. You don’t use a hammer to screw in a nail and you don’t use a sharpened prong for a dog that needs a flat. 99.9 percent of the 1700 members on this board neither have a dog that needs a sharpened prong nor have the skills to use one. So the bottom line is using a sharpened prong on a dog that needs one is correct. Suggesting to use something that maybe 1 person needs that might lead to many people using incorrectly is not.
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I have not had time (because I am with Bernhard for the next two weeks) to read this entire thread - but I agree with Vancamp. With the quality of e-collars today there is not a lot of need for a sharpened prong. There is little question that the sharpened prong had a place in training years ago but it's time has passed. Today trainers should learn how to train with an e-collar and then use that instead.
The sharpened prong has potential for doing real damage to a dogs neck - in addition to triggering an attack on the handler from the dog.
The place to start the OUT training is always to teach it to OUT (and stay OUT) off the dogs toys and prey item before its used on the helper. If a dog will not OUT off these then a handler is only kidding himself that he will be clean on a helper.
I am closing this thread because there is not a need to continue the pros and cons of a sharpened prong.
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