Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
[Re: Kory Fox ]
#359276 - 04/22/2012 07:22 PM |
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A happy place is more a work in progress, not done in one or two sessions.
It does sound like you have the added challenge of finding a treat that is like doggy crack to him. Fortunately my pups will go after bird seed.(Just joking, never gave them bird seed but they are food motivated.)
Maybe a bone or his favorite squeaky toy? Small piece of string cheese?
But the happy place comes about with more then treats. It's your tone, body language, it's the crate being associated with well, happy things.
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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#359287 - 04/22/2012 09:00 PM |
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I don't know what to tell you about not having the time yet, hopefully you'll be able to make some time for crate training soon. So he doesn't hate the crate it will take some time, he might get used to it after being tossed in so many times and realized it's not so bad. But not as nearly as good as taking it slow and easy and making a upbeat and happy educational game of it.
A brief run down, through out the day when he gets near the crate praise and reward, if he smells it praise and reward, toss some steak in the crate and happily call your pup "wheres the steak is it in your crate" when he finds it enthusiastic praise! do this game with open door.
Then once he's going in and out on his own getting praise and rewards close the door only for a few seconds at first, let him out praise & reward, slowly making it longer each time and while your right there.
Then once you're built up some time leave the room after you close the crate door, going back to a few seconds at first, come back let him out P&R and build up the time your gone.
Then from there move to leaving the house, out the front door only a few seconds come inlet him out P&R building the time your gone each time
I don't know a dog who would refuse cooked chicken or steak as a treat you might try that, also you could feed him near the crate at the front, then inside then at the back all with open door.
I think the best results in the beginning are when your in the room with the dog, short periods of time and I would have the crate in your bedroom at night, JMO.
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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#359290 - 04/22/2012 09:06 PM |
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"I don't know a dog who would refuse cooked chicken or steak as a treat you might try that"
When I need a virtually foolproof treat, I make it warm bacon.
I keep some no-nitrites cooked bacon (tiny pieces) in a baggy in the freezer and microwave a couple of pieces for a few seconds. (The aroma is hugely intensified by warmth.)
No, it's not a diet mainstay, but yes, it is what I use for things like rewards after unpleasant eye or ear "procedures," or for a special time like the first couple of crate attractions.
I know it's over-the-top. But it scents my mixed bag bait bag treats, and it's as good as a jackpot for events like ignoring a big distraction in favor of focusing on me.
Or associating the crate with wonderfulness.
And it's cheap, in spite of its stellar attractiveness.
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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#359291 - 04/22/2012 09:09 PM |
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PS
And the rest of Joe's suggestions, too.
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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#359292 - 04/22/2012 09:25 PM |
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Connie you've mentioned the bacon thing more than once and I keep forgetting to use it with the dogs before I eat it all myself.
There's usually just enough left after breakfast to make what most might find gross, a Peanut butter & bacon sandwich.
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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#359293 - 04/22/2012 09:34 PM |
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Connie you've mentioned the bacon thing more than once and I keep forgetting to use it with the dogs before I eat it all myself.
There's usually just enough left after breakfast to make what most might find gross, a Peanut butter & bacon sandwich.
Who finds that gross? I love peanut butter and pickle sandwiches. I'm sure bacon is AT LEAST as good! LOL
I read the results of a survey once about what is the most lingering meat temptation for vegetarians, and bacon was the big winner. I totally believe it! I'm a vegetarian, and it's been many years now, but bacon still smells darned good to me!
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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#359303 - 04/22/2012 11:13 PM |
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Bacon left after breakfast?!
That's just wrong!!!
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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There's usually just enough left after breakfast to make what most might find gross, a Peanut butter & bacon sandwich.
Add some banana to that, and you've got a winner :-)
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Re: New puppy is here, made hopefully a small mistake
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#359319 - 04/23/2012 12:47 PM |
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I should preface the following epistle by noting that over the years I've undertaken to introduce no small number of foster dogs as well as pack additions to each other with the objective of having dog interaction peaceful a balanced.
Whatever that meant, my first rule is that everything in the house is mine. My bones, my beds, my food, my crates, my toys, my treats, the list goes on and on. I use structured bones for gnawing because I'm lazy.
No dog in my world is over another dog. That goes for older v. younger, established pack member v. new foster or pack arrival.
That noted, a puppy can get into all kinds of trouble as he or she learns the ropes. As one noted, a young male seems more inclined to be tolerant of a female's corrections than another male. But I am the source of real correction, and that requires vigilance.
At the moment, the pack includes three females and one young male. He has learned to read the look of the females, and in turn has come to understand my vision of the world for tranquil interaction. I try to correct before some thing comes down. Usually a grunt or a word diverts any unacceptable behavior.
But some times a dog just has to be a dog. I try not to single out one dog if there is an incident. Both dogs, and all dogs get my attitude. Probably wrong but I choose to emphasize common behavior than chase the behavior of each dog.
I work to create balanced, socialized, trustworthy, reasonably well trained pets in the first instance.
So I would observe the puppy, emphasize the rules the older dog has already accepted, not hold the older dog or puppy to different rule sets, and emphasize a level playing field. I do not expect an older dog to train a puppy, nor do I expect my pack to train a foster. I expect they will all abide by my rules, which I emphasize.
It is easy to cut a puppy slack because it is new and a puppy but such an approach can send a poor management message to the older dog, in my opinion. What is fair is fair for both older and younger dog. You train the dog today for the dog you want tomorrow.
In the instance described, I probably would have just removed the bone, with a distraction command like 'hey.' Both dogs would have heard me. And the immediate area would have no issues that would continue the situation. I'm probably wrong but I see the instance as addressing the nose to nose situation and not the bone issue.
But what do I know?
Mike, I do it the same way, I know exactly what you mean. I feed them all at the same time right in a line and they aren't allowed to go near the others bowls when they're done etc. with that said , if I give them a bone they all get a bone and they go off and lay down on the lawn and munch. It's a learning possess and mine have managed to figure it out. My current youngest had a rough time but eventually he caught on too. I wish my bride could learn as fast as the dogs, lol
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