Connie Sutherland wrote 10/19/2012 07:44 PM Re: Playing ball with Marco [Re: Kory Fox ] #368140 - 10/19/2012 07:44 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	It does not have to be the exciting ball you teach the hold with. It can be an item the dog does not have that kind of feelings for. ETA I was typing with Ian. Good point about the steadier object! Edited by Connie Sutherland (10/19/2012 07:44 PM) Edit reason: ETA
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Kory Fox wrote 10/19/2012 07:51 PM Re: Playing ball with Marco [Re: Kory Fox ] #368141 - 10/19/2012 07:51 PM
Kory Fox Webboard User Reg: 06-18-2002 Posts: 364 Loc: Offline	That's what I'm thinking too Ian. So I'll ask again. Any suggestions on which tug I should get?
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Bob Scott wrote 10/19/2012 10:27 PM Re: Playing ball with Marco [Re: Kory Fox ] #368149 - 10/19/2012 10:27 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	If he's dropping it when he comes to you then you gaining nothing. That's where the back chaining comes in. You build duration with the hold. With marker training the take, the steady hold and the out are all taught before you ever even think of throwing something to retrieve. Tossing and hoping for everything to fall together is like tossing a feather on a windy day and hoping it doesn't blow away. Odds are against you! Even in heavy compulsion retrieve training, the take, the hold, the out are taught first. I've used the ear pinch, the toe pinch, the double pinch collar, etc. By far the Marker training is much easier on both you and the dog. PLUS, you teaching the dog to enjoy the game. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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ian bunbury wrote 10/19/2012 11:43 PM Re: Playing ball with Marco [Re: Kory Fox ] #368153 - 10/19/2012 11:43 PM
ian bunbury Webboard User Reg: 01-19-2012 Posts: 685 Loc: whistler bc ca Offline	there's that leather no handle or the intermediate set of three . . . over time you'll wind up with a bunch , some he'll like more than others but it is important to switch it up so he doesn't develop a bias . i make my own . dogs : the best part of being human
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