 Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#374126 - 02/26/2013 08:44 PM |
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Keep 'em coming it's working 
Yep, I know about both scent work (needed for higher levels in Obedience here) & nose work (not done here at all!).
I'm getting a book on scent work by Dawn Jec's soon, a friend of mine has just had amazing sucess teaching her Kelpie it with Dawn's method.
Would love to get the nosework DVD's as it looks like so much fun, but I really can't afford to spend that much at the moment, as you also need to get the kit too, which actually makes the postage to here ridiculous!
Am going to keep hard at work on the NILIF & Pack Structure and see how this goes.
I'm truly getting a little excited by all the small successes I've been having today
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374128 - 02/26/2013 09:29 PM |
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Desensitizing a reactive dog is also going to go a lot more easily with strong pack leadership.
I mean much more than the pack structure protocol/DVD ..... I mean you being the unfailing in-charge decider, protector, and leader.
Just need a little more help here. Is this done by standing between Stella & the people & M&R her turning her attention to me instead?
Also, how do I deal with her fear/aggressive reaction to a dog that is barking down the road? I just took her for a walk (dunno about tiring them out, but I'm buggered lol) and as we were nearly home a dog, I'm going to guess at least a block away (big blocks lol), started to bark, Stella reacted instantly with hackles, straining at the lead to run in the opposite direction (which is the way we were going anyway) and giving off very deep short "wuufs", she was clearly distressed, what should I have done to reassure her that she was in no danger because her Pack Leader was there to protect her? What I did do was increase my pace till she relaxed again.
Also, please know that I AM reading everything, but not replying to everything 
Edited by Joscelyn Lovett (02/26/2013 09:29 PM)
Edit reason: Typo's & additional info'
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374129 - 02/26/2013 09:26 PM |
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You can make your nosework kit by using q-tips and essential oil. Easy and not very expensive
One of my dog can find 3 oil, my car keys and now I need to find something new.
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374290 - 03/01/2013 09:56 AM |
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Desensitizing a reactive dog is also going to go a lot more easily with strong pack leadership.
I mean much more than the pack structure protocol/DVD ..... I mean you being the unfailing in-charge decider, protector, and leader.
Just need a little more help here. Is this done by standing between Stella & the people & M&R her turning her attention to me instead?
Also, how do I deal with her fear/aggressive reaction to a dog that is barking down the road? I just took her for a walk (dunno about tiring them out, but I'm buggered lol) and as we were nearly home a dog, I'm going to guess at least a block away (big blocks lol), started to bark, Stella reacted instantly with hackles, straining at the lead to run in the opposite direction (which is the way we were going anyway) and giving off very deep short "wuufs", she was clearly distressed, what should I have done to reassure her that she was in no danger because her Pack Leader was there to protect her? What I did do was increase my pace till she relaxed again.
Also, please know that I AM reading everything, but not replying to everything
Bumping this .... sorry these questions were overlooked, Joscelyn!
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374300 - 03/01/2013 11:42 AM |
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"Reassuring" for a fear behavior will do nothing but reinforce it. Your telling the dog it's doing good.
I think increasing your pace was a good move as long as your not close enough that your dog thinks your bringing it to the fearful place.
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374349 - 03/01/2013 09:57 PM |
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Bump again ..... self-reminder .....
The O.P. has asked via PM for more pack leader and desensitizing info and I don't want the thread to drop off "recent topics."
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374406 - 03/02/2013 05:43 PM |
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Thanks Connie
Really would like some more advise on how to be a stronger Pack Leader so that the dogs are less "fearful" & reactive.
Cheers.
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374407 - 03/02/2013 05:44 PM |
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I think increasing your pace was a good move as long as your not close enough that your dog thinks your bringing it to the fearful place.
Thanks Bob, we were heading in the opposite direction and were nearly home
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374412 - 03/02/2013 06:17 PM |
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Thanks Connie
Really would like some more advise on how to be a stronger Pack Leader so that the dogs are less "fearful" & reactive.
Cheers.
I know. It will take me a few minutes to dig up some detailed threads, but meanwhile good advice is happening. 
Like this:
""Reassuring" for a fear behavior will do nothing but reinforce it. "
Your demeanor informs the dog about the status of the "scary" thing. Your posture, actions, voice, etc., should all clearly say "That is nothing but background and we are not even bothering to look at it."
This doesn't mean drag him closer, and in fact, I'd calmly march on by, not towards it but also not acting like "oh no, we have to get away from THAT."
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Re: HELP Barking - Fear Aggression Jealousy
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#374435 - 03/02/2013 11:34 PM |
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As Connie is saying, your attitude and behavior is very important because the dog will feed off of that.
Do you do the NILIF thing? The dog can't go out or in the door or gate before you, or at the very least not without a release.
No racing up/down stairs ahead of you.
You want a sit and wait for a release when your putting the dog in a car or exiting a car. They can't just hop in or out simply because the door is open.
When you feed put the dog on a sit and don't give a release to eat until you've stood back up. That needs a sit to be solid with "small" distractions before you try it with food. That's a major distraction.
ALL of these things need to be worked on and built with small distractions.
ANYTHING you teach a dog needs to be proofed with distractions. The best sit/down/whatever isn't worth a dern if the dog can't do it under distractions built in.
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