So you'll limit yourself to only trialing in WDA trials because you're holding a grudge? I don't get that Charles. You've trialed in WDA Trials? Right?

I don't have a grudge against rattle snakes but yet I don't enjoy their company. What I do and who I do it with is none of your business and all my business!! I am a member of the GSDCA-WDA and GSDCA so if you are reading you should know where I play .. however my dogs don't seem to care. Schutzhund/IPO is a game, a sport maybe, but it's not real. Schutzhund/IPO is a lot like professional wrestling .. at the end of the day all of the players .. the judge, the handler, the dog, and the helper all get in the same car and go home together. I train my dogs for what they will be good at and enjoy doing.

You seem very angry Charles, and very dismissive of something you like to play at, something thats important enough to go to the head of the SV over. Do you belong to a club? Do you guys hold trials?

Judging by the "passionate" tone of his posts, I would say he's not just in it for the enjoyment that he and his dogs get out of it...

God knows I'm not a fan of USCA Charles but if you are not a member, do not intend to be a member, why do you care about the voting system?

Neither club should be casting stones at the other as far as fairness or putting the dogs and club level members (you know the back bone) above stupid, petty politics. There is plenty of dirt to go around.

This WDA-USCA thing has been going on as long as I have been in working dogs and it is beyond belief. All it hurts is the person trying to have fun with their dog and the local club trying to make trial expenses.

I think it's about time we grow up, tell the SV to go home (you know the guys that gave us the show line dog represented at their Seiger Show) and they can take the WUSV with them. What would we lose? A handful of people in the country would not be able to compete in the Worlds. And just imagine what the clubs could do with that money that flows to Germany.

I think USCA should accept scorebooks by other judges recognized by their parent organization. I also think the WUSV is way out of line telling the clubs that they can not charge a higher entry fee to a non member.

I guess it depends on whose lunch money is getting taken. The little bully (USCA) was pushing the GSDCA and GSDCA-WDA around and now the big bully (SV and WUSV) has kicked their ass and they are crying like babies! We will all end up paying the big bully but you know I am fine with that!!

Your throwing a hormonal fit, USCA sent us all a letter saying, OK, we'll accept the scorebooks. I'm still not understanding why in the world you want to raise a huge deal about something you think is just a game? Fake like wrestling? Are you in a club to play with? Or are you on your own?

Like I said ... waaaahhhhhh!!

As a newcomer, this certainly doesn't encourage me to join GWDCA. I'd hate to got to a club meeting or trial and have to listen to this junk the whole time.

I'm with Steve, I don't understand your passion on this.

I don't think neither side of the street is clean here, there is plenty of blame to share in my book.

But I'm happy, people will have more choices for where to trial, clubs will have more people to pull in for entries.....

Maybe it's a step in the right direction.

If it is true that one club will not be able to charge more for non club members to trial I'm totally against that. That's not right.