Mara Jessup wrote 10/26/2013 09:53 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #385224 - 10/26/2013 09:53 PM
Mara Jessup Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2005 Posts: 2316 Loc: Offline	Quote: Ariane Gauthier I have chosen them, now I do what I have to be their leader. Yes. Exactly! I need a "like" button I can push a hundred times for this statement! K-9 Knitter
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Natalie Rynda wrote 10/26/2013 11:16 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #385226 - 10/26/2013 11:16 PM
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013 Posts: 343 Loc: nyc Offline	Post moved from separation anxiety to its own thread at http://leerburg.com/webboard/thread.php?topic_id=33795&page=1#385228
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Bob Scott wrote 10/26/2013 11:57 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #385230 - 10/26/2013 11:57 PM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Standing over the crate is doing nothing if you've already showed the dog the food. That's doing nothing but bribing the dog and will make the situation much worse. Yes, he'll quiet down for the bribe but don't even reach for food until the dog complies. I would sit in a chair without looking at or towards the dog and not mark and reward till it calms down. That may take a bit since he's already trained you to bring him treats for his antics. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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Bob Scott wrote 10/27/2013 12:00 AM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #385231 - 10/27/2013 12:00 AM
Bob Scott Moderator Reg: 06-14-2002 Posts: 7417 Loc: St. Louis Mo Offline	Most dogs will be attracted to whomever feeds them. From there it's a matter of them finding out how much they can get away with when they push your buttons. We create that when the leadership skills are lacking. old dogs LOVE to learn new tricks
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tracey holden wrote 10/27/2013 02:44 AM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #385239 - 10/27/2013 02:44 AM
tracey holden Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2010 Posts: 1442 Loc: UK Offline	Quote: Natalie Rynda I don't mean to take threads off topic but things come to my head. I was reading Nick Logan's thread and someone said to him that if Gambit had a choice he wouldn't've picked him (nick) so that has me thinking if my dog would've picked me if he had the choice. Just wanted to share))))) It's spooky that you brought up the Nick Logan threads; I have been experiencing déjà vu with the similarity of these threads with his..... Off topic and irrelevant, just struck me how weird it was that I have been reading these posts, thinking about him, and then you brought him up!
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Cheri Grissom wrote 10/27/2013 01:17 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Ariane Gauthier ] #385258 - 10/27/2013 01:17 PM
Cheri Grissom Webboard User Reg: 09-30-2010 Posts: 2609 Loc: Michigan Offline	In re-reading this thread, there are a couple things Ariane said that I think bear repeating: "...one big challenge is to trust that you can do it." "I had to learn to not just be calm on the outside but inside too." "...I do what I have to to be their leader." Thanks, Ariane. That's good advice that I know I will be reminding myself of often.
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Melissa Hoyer wrote 10/27/2013 01:43 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Mara Jessup ] #385259 - 10/27/2013 01:43 PM
Melissa Hoyer Webboard User Reg: 05-09-2005 Posts: 1340 Loc: SE Michigan Offline	Quote: Mara Jessup  Quote: Ariane Gauthier I have chosen them, now I do what I have to be their leader. Yes. Exactly! I need a "like" button I can push a hundred times for this statement! Me, too!
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Melissa Hoyer wrote 10/27/2013 01:51 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Natalie Rynda ] #385260 - 10/27/2013 01:51 PM
Melissa Hoyer Webboard User Reg: 05-09-2005 Posts: 1340 Loc: SE Michigan Offline	I have a 4 month old pup that is super excitable when coming out of her crate or when I come back into the room. This is a super social little girl who wants nothing more than to be with her people. My best successes are when she is absolutely tired. Today, we played all morning. Then, we went for a run at the park and did some tracking. Then, we went to my in laws for a visit and another romp. She's exhausted. So this morning, when I got her out of her crate, she was a wild child. I didn't choose that time to work on her manners. I simply waited for her to quiet, entered the room, told her to sit, and sprung her free. It took all of 25 seconds maximum. I put her collar on and outside we went. I remained calm, ignored her crazy behavior and she quickly settled for some loving. This afternoon, when she was tired. I popped her in her crate for 10 minutes and then went back in and practiced entering/exiting calmly. Moral of the story: A tired dog is a good dog.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/27/2013 02:21 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Melissa Hoyer ] #385261 - 10/27/2013 02:21 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Melissa Hoyer I have a 4 month old pup that is super excitable when coming out of her crate or when I come back into the room. This is a super social little girl who wants nothing more than to be with her people. My best successes are when she is absolutely tired. Today, we played all morning. Then, we went for a run at the park and did some tracking. Then, we went to my in laws for a visit and another romp. She's exhausted. So this morning, when I got her out of her crate, she was a wild child. I didn't choose that time to work on her manners. I simply waited for her to quiet, entered the room, told her to sit, and sprung her free. It took all of 25 seconds maximum. I put her collar on and outside we went. I remained calm, ignored her crazy behavior and she quickly settled for some loving. This afternoon, when she was tired. I popped her in her crate for 10 minutes and then went back in and practiced entering/exiting calmly. Moral of the story: A tired dog is a good dog. The very same moral that pops up all the time in reactivity threads, in destructive-dog threads, in OCB threads, bark-fest threads, crate-training threads, and so many more ... That's a really good post ... wild young dog in the morning, filled with energy, released from the crate when a moment of calm happens, then tracking, running, visiting, and playing. THEN practice with entering and exiting the crate.
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Jodi Moen wrote 10/27/2013 02:53 PM Re: Separation anxiety I guess [Re: Melissa Hoyer ] #385265 - 10/27/2013 02:53 PM
Jodi Moen Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2010 Posts: 799 Loc: USA Offline	Agree, when I work with Ambi, its play to take the edge off, then working on her reactivity, or obediance, then play again. I think a "tired" dog, or one who has had some of the energy burned off first is much more willing to focus and listen, even a dog who is not high energy. My animals are not "like" family, they ARE family.
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