 Re: Dog with a Bite History
[Re: Betty Waldron ]
#385690 - 11/03/2013 07:19 PM |
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Do you know if it was a frontal bite or coming from behind? In my experience frontal bites tend to come from a dog (especially in loose dogs) who is aggressive/protective, whereas bites from behind tend to be more of a herding (get moving) etc type of bite. That being said a bite is still a bite.
I also wonder if previouly he had been allowed to mark the neighbors property, and when loose just was being territorial with "his" property, especially with his friend with him.
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
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#385693 - 11/03/2013 08:44 PM |
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To follow up on David's suggestions. I think you need to see how the dog handles pressure from someone it doesn't know. Yelling, teasing threatening. Be prepared to make a correction so the dog understands what's expected.
I'm not sure if my question deserves it's own thread, but when is it appropriate to correct a dog for biting, versus not correcting so as not to make biting MORE likely (ie, associating the bite with the PERSON, instead of the act of biting?)
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
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#385699 - 11/04/2013 12:35 AM |
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To follow up on David's suggestions. I think you need to see how the dog handles pressure from someone it doesn't know. Yelling, teasing threatening. Be prepared to make a correction so the dog understands what's expected.
I'm not sure if my question deserves it's own thread, but when is it appropriate to correct a dog for biting, versus not correcting so as not to make biting MORE likely (ie, associating the bite with the PERSON, instead of the act of biting?)
The dog HAS TO BE CAUGHT IN THE ACT if corrections are to be made. A calm yet serious correction. The temperament and stability of the dog is also put into play. A nervous or neurotic dog can go postal with corrections but that's usually directed at the person doing the correction.
As for associating the bite with the person, are you saying being corrected because of the person that was bit, or because of the person doing the correction?
I don't see a dog connecting a correction from it's owner for biting someone else as connecting it to the person it bit.
The dog should connect any corrections from it's handler. If it resents that then it's a leadership issue or an unstable dog.
Betty,do you know what damage was done in the bite? I started thinking about that. Often time a dog will do what's called a inhibited or controlled bite. That normally does little more then pinch the skin. It's rarely a seriously aggressive bite.
Most bite damage that isn't a deep bite is created when the person pulls away from the bite.
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
[Re: Betty Waldron ]
#385704 - 11/04/2013 04:32 AM |
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Was there a bite report filed? Those are a matter of public record ( at least in my area) and should include a description of the incident, as well as level of bite (1-4). that could provide you with info you're looking for.
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#386069 - 11/10/2013 06:45 PM |
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Hi all, just thought I would update a bit, things have been a bit hectic around here.
The report is sketchy, my county animal control officer called me when she was forwarded the report. Pictures are too dark to make anything out, useless, but it did sound like a frontal attack and the EMT's that was called suggested that she go to the hospital for possible stitches which she had refused to do.
Did straighten it out with Animal Control that it was not one of my personally owned dogs that did the bite, that's how she received the info at first from the other county. LOL
So far I'm seeing a nice boy that I will be comfortable placing in a carefully selected home.
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
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#386093 - 11/10/2013 11:48 PM |
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Thanks for the update Betty.
It's doubtful if you'll ever hear the whole story. I'm just glad your taking every effort to make sure he's a stable dog.
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
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#386170 - 11/11/2013 10:15 PM |
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I'm treating him like an aggressive dog and will place him like one. I would rather err on the side of safety.
It's a shame, and I wish I really knew what happened but I never will. I'm just happy I was able to get him out of Animal Control.
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
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#386177 - 11/12/2013 06:06 AM |
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Perhaps castration might be considered.
Sometimes young male dogs just get to be ...... too much. If this dog is not destined for protection or for one of your jobs where being super tough is prized, castration could take the "edge" off and allow him to ease into a more mellow frame of mind.
I think it helps with territoriality, with the seriousness of the dogs drive/intent.
I'm considering it for my English Shepherd, now 18 mos, and becoming a handful.
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
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#386192 - 11/12/2013 12:36 PM |
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He is neutered. I'm use to dominant territorial males and so far I'm not seeing anything over the top with him. But I do set those boundaries early and decisively and he may still be on his behavior.
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Re: Dog with a Bite History
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#390618 - 05/03/2014 02:40 AM |
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Thought I would do a quick update.
This is a happy boy, with a little bit of the prankster thrown in. I feel comfortable in getting him placed now,even though I will still be cautious. Zero sign of any aggression.
To add to life's ironies about the same time I re-obtained/bought his litter mate back that had fallen into the hands of a puppy pimp. She's taken some rehabbing physically and mentally but is healthy enough now that I can get her spayed and can consider homing her. Poor thing, life had not been good to her, she broke my heart she was so skinny, among other things.
Along with her brother she is doing great now. Her health was touch and go at first. In addition to be over bred her ribs did show signs of a healed injury when I had her xrayed.
I obviously did not do a good job at placing this litter......
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