 Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
[Re: Brianah Maloney ]
#386284 - 11/14/2013 08:06 AM |
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We work with Bailey a lot on nosework to keep her busy and get her tired. She loves it. One thing I noticed is how much it teaches you about your dog and how he or she thinks. We start with simple hide and seek with her favorite toys and as the game goes on, we have to work harder and harder to fool her. We just put her in a sit and then go around the house to hide the toy. It's amazing so see how well she air tracks so you have to backtrack and duplicate where you go with and without the toy before you hide it. One thing that I'm amazed with about her behavior is, once she discovers where she thinks the toy is and if it is somewhere she can't get to, like a drawer or an overhead cabinet, she will just put herself in a sit and wait for me to open it up and remove the toy. No one taught her that behavior. Nice thing about this game is it requires no equipment and can be played anywhere.
Those articles posted here are interesting. Some good ideas for other ways to do the same thing.
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
[Re: David Winners ]
#386336 - 11/14/2013 11:47 PM |
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Got pictures Bob?
Or at least an explanation of how you made them?
Thanks
Take 4" PVC and cut it into 10" lengths. They can get their muzzles in this.
Take 2" PVC and cut it into 2'
The 2" is cut on an angle on one end and stuck in a hole half way down the 4" tube. The hold needs to be on and angle so the 2" comes off like a coffee pot spout.
Below where the 2" enters the 4" I put a 1/4" wire cloth sandwiched between to 1/2" slices of the 4". You'll have to take about half an inch out of the slices because the ID or the 4" is smaller then the slices. These have to be compressed to fit inside the 4". The target odor is below the screen where the dog can't get to it.
As the dog sticks it's nose inside mark and reward. The reward is dropped down the 2" pipe onto the screen.
The 2" pipe is mainly because I'm to lazy to bend down to the 4" tube but I would think you could also cut a hand size hole in the side of the 4" at the bottom to pass the food through. This would eliminate the need for the 2" tube.
Does this make sense? 
I suck at posting photos.
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
[Re: Greg Meyer ]
#386338 - 11/15/2013 07:58 AM |
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We work with Bailey a lot on nosework to keep her busy and get her tired. She loves it. One thing I noticed is how much it teaches you about your dog and how he or she thinks. This! Activities that utilize a dog's natural abilities really teach a person how to "read" their dog and allow the dog to become an active thinking partner in what you're doing. I think that's why I find both stockwork and nosework so fascinating.
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
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#386339 - 11/15/2013 08:07 AM |
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Got pictures Bob?
Or at least an explanation of how you made them?
Thanks
Take 4" PVC and cut it into 10" lengths. They can get their muzzles in this.
Take 2" PVC and cut it into 2'
The 2" is cut on an angle on one end and stuck in a hole half way down the 4" tube. The hold needs to be on and angle so the 2" comes off like a coffee pot spout.
Below where the 2" enters the 4" I put a 1/4" wire cloth sandwiched between to 1/2" slices of the 4". You'll have to take about half an inch out of the slices because the ID or the 4" is smaller then the slices. These have to be compressed to fit inside the 4". The target odor is below the screen where the dog can't get to it.
As the dog sticks it's nose inside mark and reward. The reward is dropped down the 2" pipe onto the screen.
The 2" pipe is mainly because I'm to lazy to bend down to the 4" tube but I would think you could also cut a hand size hole in the side of the 4" at the bottom to pass the food through. This would eliminate the need for the 2" tube.
Does this make sense?
I suck at posting photos.
Thanks Bob! I got it  I like the senior ingenuity LOL
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
[Re: Brianah Maloney ]
#386340 - 11/15/2013 08:14 AM |
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I've always used boxes. The method is proprietary, so I can't share it, but I'm interested in the tubes. I'm going to build a set and work the boxes and tubes and see which I like better.
The Loganhaus videos are inspiring.
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
[Re: David Winners ]
#386343 - 11/15/2013 02:58 PM |
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I entered the new contest with a plan to start my Papillon and my parent’s terrier on rodent scents. A bit of Earth Dog stuff in combination with a barn hunt.
I am using hay bales for the tunnel, running them lengthwise with bales on top, each end open. I made 3 pvc tubes with holes in them for air( both ends closed), one empty, one with rodent bedding, one holds the rodent.
I want them to alert on the cylinder that houses the rodent, locating the rodent tube hidden in the hay maze.
I started with an 8’ x 10” sonotube, good for the small dogs. When Poodle was so eager to give it a whirl, and had his head stuck in the tube, changing the configuration of the hay bales to accommodate size was easy.
You can get creative with the hay setup, not just ground level stuff but height and different scents too.
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
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#386350 - 11/15/2013 04:57 PM |
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If you're doing it for fun and stimulation for the dog, it's easy for the dog. Let them see you hide something that has value for them (a treasured toy or treat) while they're in a sit-stay; release with whatever is your "release" command combined with a verbal and non-verbal for "search."
Some dogs get it first time.
I don't compete and am far from a pro, but my dog(s) will find a bottle cap under piles of leaves, a key behind a door, the cap of a pen hidden in the house, etc. It's all for fun. (If the object is out of the way somehow, they down. If it's food for which they had to search, they take the treat but come to me with it.)
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
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#386351 - 11/15/2013 05:22 PM |
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What Sharon said ^^^
As Tracy described on page 1, I started with food under an upside-down cup (along with other cups that had no food underneath) just to see whether a 14-year-old Pug could play too. NO
PROBLEM! 
The food-under-a-cup thing was way too easy for all of them ... it wasn't really even a nose-game as much as it was a race to get to that cup.
So then I went to more complicated searches as described by Sharon.
This way (starting very simply, and using food) meant that I could see when to increase the difficulty.
eta
Just wanted to add that I highly recommend this, Brianah. "Find it" turned out to be extremely popular here, with all the dogs.
Edited by Connie Sutherland (11/15/2013 05:22 PM)
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
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#386352 - 11/15/2013 05:57 PM |
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Funny, isn't it, how easy it is to work with dogs' natural abilities? With them, not against them?
One dog gave me a surprise that really should not have a surprise at all. Early in training, I hid myself on the property with the sole purpose being for him to find me when I called him (this was a proofing and he was unpredictable, so who knew what would happen). I changed my mind and moved a couple of times. All the while, the husband had the dog (a DS) occupied someplace in the house.
I decided not to call him when I heard his tags jingling fervently when the husband let him out--he was tracking my steps, every zig and zag I took, and found me. The husband could see the whole thing, whereas I could only hear what he was doing, but the proud papa said it was amazing to watch.
Our beasts are as amazing as we allow them to be.
It's old-hat now...but still pretty neat to watch.
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Re: Starting up nosework for the love of it.
[Re: Brianah Maloney ]
#386363 - 11/15/2013 11:23 PM |
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David this is a bit off topic but I also use 1" PVC tubes for baiting a sport track. It'sooooo much easier to just drop a piece of bait down the tube into a foot print then all that bending over.
Us older folks can be pretty dern smart when it comes to saving energy.
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