Aric Buss Webboard User Reg: 10-14-2013
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I sent a link to my parents for the belly bands. I recommended the diaper idea, quite clever. The urine culture does look a lot better of an idea.
Betty, he was purchased from a couple who got him from a very bad backyard breeder. They sold him to my parents at 4 months, I have tried reaching out to the breeder. Pretty much got a f*** you. I have been reading up on wobblers syndrome a little more in depth sent the parents a lot of links. As well as lots of copy and pastes from this thread, lots of great suggestions and ideas. They are taking him in at some point soon they keep saying, we all leave town for a family reunion on monday so I will ensure he is brought in before then. Even If I have to go steal him and bring him in myself!
Nerogenic incontinence does indeed seem probable unfortunately. I will update you guys as soon as I hear anything.
Thank you all, im very grateful to have a group like you all just a website away.
Aric-
Don't take anything read here to heart, get professional help! I'm just making guesses, given limited information.
It's just as likely your pup has a failure of housetraining as it is he has a nerve problem, probably more likely, training failure being 1000x more common.
So don't get too worried, at least not unless someone professional who has seen the dog says there is cause for worry......
Aric Buss Webboard User Reg: 10-14-2013
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Just wanted to post about something I observed today while visiting my parents.
I got to witness him urinate, which I have only seen twice before. In my opinion its not intentional, as as soon as it started It almost seemed to startle him or catch him off guard. Im not too sure if that makes any sense? Just thought I would update and let you guys know. Ill let you know what the vet says tomorrow.
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It's good you were there to see it happening, it certainly sounds like he has no control over it, I've been thinking about the poor little bugger all week, even at work, and he isn't even my dog, so you and your family must be worried sick
It will be good to hear what the vet finds so you can get it sorted.
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Hello, I apologize for the delay in posting. The vet did a urine culture, and did a very thorough physical examination. Will get results back for the urine culture after the reunion. The vet said he is suffering from hip dysplasia and it will only get worse as he ages. She also said his hind end is very weak, and despite having hip dysplasia it should be stronger. Other than that she said nothing was wrong with him and she thinks its just a training issue.
Im not very convinced on her diagnosis, as I thought hip dysplasia could only 100% be diagnosed if an x-ray was performed. She also did not seem very confident in what she was saying. I guess all we can do now is wait until they return and take him in to a better vet after getting the urine culture results.
Tough to DX hip dysplasia in a pup, you can, if it's dreadful, but a 6 mos old pup has heavy bone and weak muscle and most large breed pups feel sloppy on palpation.
I remember being taught as a student in vet school how "taking a pee" was a big deal for an animal. The site for peeing is picked, there is some looking about to make sure it's safe, in a male there is stretching out or lifting the leg, in a female squatting, the animal is vulnerable for a second. It is a thoughtful process, not a reflex. Only in a very, very young baby is urinary flow involuntary. Or the very old. Or the near dead. Or in a seizure. Or in terror.
Now, some super uncoordinated pups can gain control late, think of the poor kid in kindergarten with wet pants, happens in humans too. But by 6 mos urination should be well controlled.
If this dog is not yet castrated I certainly would not do that until this is resolved. Testosterone helps with sphincter tone.
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