Maggie - are you familiar with shaping? You can make it "his" idea through shaping. I'll post a video I did with my dog when I get on a computer (or you can do a forum search for "Kenzi" or "shaping" to find the thread with the videos from last year)
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Backchain!
What I meant when I mentioned this before is to teach the final step of any retrieve/fetch (in this case, releasing the item to your hand) first ..... that is, before you ever toss it.
I've typed out the sequence here in the past, and so have a couple of others. So I'll be able to find one or the other of the posts.
I'll be done working in three hours or so hours and will find one.
Maybe I have it wrong but I think that's what I am trying to do Connie. I work on having Bak take the object in his mouth and drop it in my hands. That's what I want his getting the mail to look like at the end.
He fights it by moving his snout up and from side to side.
I watched the retrieve video by M. Ellis and held his mouth closed like they do and he drops it the moment I release his mouth.
I just have to add a few more trainings to the day .. I think.
I am going to video us today .. maybe it will show what I am doing wrong.
I need to find more Mara's luring technique too. Not giving up!
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"drops balls close to my feet but never in my hand .. " made me think that you had tossed the ball.
But no matter .... I think that the idea for me with this would be to teach the release into your hand first. So .... what DOES he pick up in his mouth? That is what I would use for my release link. Then I would expand to other items, making releasing the item to you into a generic command, regardless of what item he has. That way, for this chain, the release into my hand is separate from the dog picking up the somewhat problematic item.
I'll find the spelled-out steps tonight.
And Bob will probably comment on separating the release (for backchaining purposes) from going after it, picking it up, coming to you with it, holding it.
sounds like you've jumped from the "take it" right to the "out".
Bak needs to learn "hold" even if it's for a second before he gets an "out".
Of course you don't really put a command to it until he understands you don't want him to drop it yet.
keep hold of his snout with the object in it. If need be put him on a leash so he can't fight you so much.
Maybe just mark and reward his holding still while holding his muzzle and nothing in his mouth.
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