Nicole hardman Webboard User Reg: 12-21-2014
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Not to be disagreeable to people with far more knowledge than I but I am still "experimenting" with my dogs optimal food rations. As it stands, he is holding on to a bit more weight than he should have (but he's far from fat). When I decrease his food even a little he seems famished. I should also note that I am 8 mos pregnant so his exercise regime can wildly differ from day to day.
I've even heard it advised for training to skip a meal or 2 if you're having trouble getting the dog to WANT what you have, and that this is not in the least harmful.
The point I am trying to come to is that I am skeptical that what Peter is doing is harmful, providing that he pays attention to the results and adjusts or goes back to his original rations.
Like I said, though, I am in no way an expert. In fact I joined here to absorb as much as possible to help my amazing boy be his very best!
Nicole hardman Webboard User Reg: 12-21-2014
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I see. He makes a habit of trying to provoke these reactions. I thought he was being ganged up on for trying to understand his dogs needs better. Please disregard my post. :-)
I am here to learn!
geez forgive me for spending some time this year -
"determining what optimal nutrition is for each dog to keep them at their individual best weight and body condition."
"I strive to keep up with any changes in dietary needs that might come along due to age, season of year, illnesses, et cetera, and adjust meals accordingly to maintain their best condition."
geez forgive me for spending some time this year -
"determining what optimal nutrition is for each dog to keep them at their individual best weight and body condition."
"I strive to keep up with any changes in dietary needs that might come along due to age, season of year, illnesses, et cetera, and adjust meals accordingly to maintain their best condition."
I don't deserve to own a dog.
Since the quoted material in your post is mine, I'll respond. I think a few of us in this thread were just trying to understand why you would take your dogs, who are already in optimal condition (at least that's what you've led us to believe), and then deliberately mess with portions just for amusement, to see what would happen, and to prove something that is already common sense to most: Metabolism is a complex thing!!!
Experimenting to find what will work to get a dog into good condition is commendable, but it just defies logic for someone to say, "Gee, my dogs are in great condition, but I think I'd like to see if I can get them to lose or gain weight, just for fun."
But, to quote you, Peter, "Different strokes..."
I will continue to scratch my head in puzzlement at a lot of your posts, but I'll politely bow out now.
tbh, I am equally puzzled as I feel I was doing the exact same thing in the quotes.
the point of the OP was to generate discussion on the complex issue of diet, activity levels and individual dog metabolism.
some may think that specific issue is obvious and trivial, good for them and some try hard to see more to it than what there is, granted my wording does not always help.
I prefer to talk about dogs and am less interested in much else.
^^^^ Okay, I know I said I was bowing out of this thread, but your post above has me more confused than ever. Maybe I completely misunderstood your OP, but I thought it was to the effect that you were experimenting with feeding all of your dogs, who are of different sizes and energy levels, the exact same portions to see what would happen. I did not realize you were striving to get one or more of them into their best condition. My apologies if I took it all the wrong way.
I know sometimes our written words on a discussion forum do not translate well, even when we're all speaking the same language. Maybe that's what happened here. I kinda wish I had gone with my first instinct and stayed out of the thread since I apparently misinterpreted the point of the whole discussion.
I like to talk about dogs, too. I thought that's what we were talking about.
Feed needs to keep the same weight are extremely different. Being an intact dog, male or female, requires a lot more calories to maintain the same weight. Growth takes calories. Nerves take calories. Some dogs are just always moving -- maybe not a lot, but some just don't rest to the same degree as others. Dogs who are animated, on guard, watching, take more feed.
Cold weather is the biggest driver of appetite besides lactation in my world. When it's cold it's hard to feed them enough if they spend a bunch of time outdoors.
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